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[DarkStaR]

Does anyone know if this case is real?

What's it worth?

It's for an MK23 (SOCOM).

I purchased it years ago at a gun show thinking it was fake, and just bought it because it looked nice.

Over the years I've been reading that some (non-american, maybe european) MK23s came with a case similar to this, and earlier models with a similar case, but with gold trim.

I don't frequent gun forums at all, so TIA.  All the links I do find keep switch over to porn...  

[fastwin]

Sorry, no help on the case. It looks very nice and looks authentic. I'd recommend you buy an auto that fits it and put it to good use! No. Seriously!

As far as the .22 pistol question, I'm going with ducatiz. I've had my Ruger MK IIs for so long I have no idea what I paid for them or what they go for now. GREAT .22 pistols. Both of mine are bull barrels, one stainless and one blue. I had a Browning Buckmark which was nice but it didn't keep me from swapping it to my brother for one of his boys to have. I also have a couple of Colt Woodsman Match Target .22s that I grew up with. One 4" and one 6". I'll never get rid of those! They go to the grave with me... along with a couple of my bikes!

But you are right. Some of the most fun you can have is spending an afternoon with a .22, a brick of ammo and a couple of cold beers! I grew up as a kid doing the same thing (minus the beer ) at my Dad's ranch near Hamilton and almost a half century later I still love it! Can't beat it. I loved it when my Dad sent me on a "mission" to shoot a bunch of big ass bullfrogs so he could cook up a frog leg dinner. There were seriously some HUGE ones at the stock tanks and I can still hear him saying "don't come back until you fill this bucket with frogs". Of course there was the inevitable mission creep. But hey, I was a kid and there was a lot of stuff that needed shooting!

[DarkStaR]

Sorry, no help on the case. It looks very nice and looks authentic. I'd recommend you buy an auto that fits it and put it to good use! No. Seriously!

Maybe I should of got the USP then.  Wasn't thinking of the case when I got the 1911... 

[fastwin]

You deserve to feel bad. The only way to fix it now is to go out and get a USP. Only then will eternal happiness return. Trust me.

[Monsterlover]

Did some shooting a couple weeks ago, but haven't had much time to post.

My wife's best friend was visiting her dad and wife wanted to go see her since it was only an hr drive (vs 7 to friends house)

I was on the fence about going or working at the shop.  Wife said "her dad says bring guns and you guys can shoot in the back yard all afternoon."

Sold.

The reason I'm posting about this is because this guy was really neat.  Retired cutter grinder for Cummins Engine in NY.  His basement was full of smaller machinery that was all belt driven, and all restored by him to the point that they looked new.

I'm kicking myself for not taking a camera.

He has a passion for .22 rifles, and buys em at the shows and restores them.  His work is amazing.  I really can't find better words than that.

He relines his own barrels, cuts his own stocks, makes missing parts etc all on these ancient machines (from the 20's and 30's) holding tenth's (four decimal places)

Missing a tiny, minuscule (almost invisible) screw?  He fills the threads with solder so he has something to measure then turns a new screw on the lathe, threads it, and slots the head on a tiny horizontal mill.

He made a flint lock pistol.  Made the barrel from scratch.  Rifled it in a way that blew me away.  He's not a machinist.  All self taught.  I don't know that I would have ever thought of his rifling method.

He set the barrel up in his lathe.  Created a stick with a slot in the end that was the same size as the bore.  Wanting a 1:22 twist, he made a wheel with a 22" circumference and mounted that on his lathe.

A wire was ran from the back of the machine, to the wheel, around the wheel an bunch of times and over to the other side on the front of the machine (some pulleys involved here)  He locked the chuck so I would not rotate.

The stick was mounted in the wheel.  As the lathe's carriage moved 22" it would turn the wheel, and the stick, one time.  He made a cutter to fit the end of the stick and ran it in and out until it wouldn't cut anymore.

Then he shimmed the cutter with paper and repeated the process until he had the groove depth he wanted and did it all for 8 grooves.

But anyway, we ended up shooting a Ballard .22 single shot target rifle with a drop block action and a set trigger.  The scope was from the 30's.

It had a cheek piece and butt plate very similar to this


And the controls looked preeeety much exactly like this


The thing had a 1-1/4 stainless barrel that he machined the chamber on.  When you put a round in and closed it all up, the fit was amazing.  I could feel the precision.  It was as if everything was just .001" shy of not working.

And the set trigger. . .  omg.  Talk about no trigger pull.  1/2-1 pound I'd guess.

We had a blast shooting the shit and putting holes in pie plates at 50 yards all afternoon.  Easy to shoot groups the size of a quarter.

Then we got out .45's and my 9mm and knocked down fire wood we setup out in the yard.

God damn, what a make the beast with two backsing awesome afternoon.

[fastwin]

Sounds like a kick ass good time! I wouldn't have wanted to go either until the magic words were spoken. People with that kind of talent and skill just blow me away. I can't do shit so anyone like that just impresses the hell out of me. What a great way to burn off an afternoon and see some really cool old stuff... oh yeah, and the shooting is good too.

[rgramjet]

What are everyones reconmendations on $300 - $400 .22 pistols?  I love the hours of fun for little money I can have with my 10/22 & would like to get a pistol also.  Many of the .22 pistols I have shot like the walther P22 & the ruger mark III just feel a little to small in my hands to get used to.  Then theres also the part of me that wants to get the gsg 522 pk just for the cool factor, any one have any experiance with these?

I love my MK2 Target in SS.  Ive got a red dot scope on it.....clunky, but dead on and great for shooting falling plates.  

Just as fun and surprisingly accurate and reliable is my Ceiner .22 conversion kit for the Glock 17.  Great way to introduce the kiddos and the wife to the 17 without the bark.  Switches out in seconds.....

[caperix]

I have considered a .22 conversion kit.  I have a Sig 229 that a .22 kit is available for, but for the $300 I would spend on it I could buy a whole .22.

[fastwin]

I actually have a Ceiner .22 conversion for my Glock 19/23s but I have never used it. Don't want to get rid of it just would rather shoot my standard .22s. Although I have enjoyed the Wilson Combat 1911 conversion set up I have on a slicked up full size receiver. It's been a great tool for teaching my step son how to properly handle and use the 1911 without the .45acp influence. I have a couple of Colt Commanders in 9mm, one steel the other a lightweight but he still isn't comfy with any 9mm auto yet. Don't need to push it. The Wilson conversion gun is accomplishing the goal just fine.

If you have room in the gun safe and are going to spend the money one way or the other I'd just pick up a nice .22 auto or revolver that fits your hand and needs. There is no end in sight to the options out there. Is that a great dilema or what?

[rgramjet]

I have considered a .22 conversion kit.  I have a Sig 229 that a .22 kit is available for, but for the $300 I would spend on it I could buy a whole .22.

I thought they were more like $200.  I paid $175 for mine with two extra mags off Gunbroker.

[psycledelic]

What are everyones reconmendations on $300 - $400 .22 pistols?  I love the hours of fun for little money I can have with my 10/22 & would like to get a pistol also.  Many of the .22 pistols I have shot like the walther P22 & the ruger mark III just feel a little to small in my hands to get used to.  Then theres also the part of me that wants to get the gsg 522 pk just for the cool factor, any one have any experiance with these?

Not sure about the price, but the Sig Mosquito looks pretty cool.  Supposedly 10% smaller than the 226.  

Probably not what you are after, but I love my Ruger Charger.  Knoxx synthetic stock w/ single point sling and a 2x red dot will jazz it up a little.  

[Monsterlover]

[WarrenJ]

A falling block slug gun - Interesting! 

[Monsterlover]

For the record this is not my project. . . but here's another pic to over



"we made case by putting 12ga size rim on bmg brass"

"To put rim on cases we turn off old rim to bottom of extractor groove, and thread stub 5/8 x 24
for premade rim that screws on with locktite.
Here is picture of cases with threaded stub
and premade rims along with 3
different slugs in other cases"

[ducatiz]

For the record this is not my project. . . but here's another pic to over

nice.  that's just nuts.