GUN STUFF

[rgramjet]

I like the carbine setup better.  The main problem I have with the AR is the recoil system, prohibiting a proper folding stock.  they came up with that goofy ass telescoping stock for the M4 which most people Set and Forget.  A folding stock has far more use.

One of the reasons I love the Daewoo AR100 and the original AR180.

I her ya re the folding stock.  The lower pistol has a rear rail........I wonder if there is a folding stock setup that will work.

[fastwin]

Years ago I had a SIG 500 and a 551. I really liked the folding stock on those rifles. Damn, what was I thinking when I sold them? I liked the way the mags link together too... wish AR mags did that.

[ducatiz]

I her ya re the folding stock.  The lower pistol has a rear rail........I wonder if there is a folding stock setup that will work.

sure, if you pay the $200 tax.. :-)

Years ago I had a SIG 500 and a 551. I really liked the folding stock on those rifles. Damn, what was I thinking when I sold them? I liked the way the mags link together too... wish AR mags did that.

where the hell did you pick up a SIG 500??

[fastwin]

Ooops! Typo!! 500? It was a 550 and a 551. The 551 being the shorter version of the 550. My bad. Neat guns. No telling what those would go for now. Actually I don't want to know. Only semi auto I have now worth anything is a sear cut, G series lightweight FAL. And I don't even want to know what it's worth.

[RAT900]

There was a time when I had 2 SIG AMT's   

One was Sarco marked, the other was SIG Virginia marked

[fastwin]

I had a SIG AMT and a PE57 at one time too. Loved the AMT so much I had a AD in my garage with it! Nothing like capping off a .308 inside your garage! Yes, major dumbass move. Lesson learned. Always check you mags before you dry fire. At least it was pointed in a safe direction. Pay attention people... don't do what I did! PE57 ammo was damn hard to find. Neat rifle but didn't mind seeing it go to someone else.

[RAT900]

Yes the Swiss ammo price and availability always kept me away from the PE57 tho I think that was the nicer looking rifle over the AMT....

I paid around 2200 for them each back in the early 1990's....they were sold off to pay toward college tuition bills for the kids

Had an AD at the range this year....my first ever.....M14SA convinced myself I had fired my last round, dropped the magazine, left the rifle on the bench

got the gun case put it on the bench, picked up the rifle pointing it down range,

not realizing the action was in battery with a round....I wrongfully assumed/thought/imagined I had sent the bolt home after I dropped the mag

pulled the trigger to release the hammer

on what I thought was an empty chamber before casing the rifle...

bang

that really rattled my safe weapons handling self-confidence...big time

[fastwin]

My AMT experience exactly. Thought the mag was dry... and it was considering the last round got stripped off into the chamber. Ahhh, chamber check??? Pulled the trigger to drop the hammer before going into the safe. SURPRISE!! Always pointed out an open garage window straight into the middle of my backyard to dry fire. No harm done on the receiving end. But still feel like a complete dumbass 20 years later. Don't mind talking about it because it reminds me of the lesson learned and hopefully it strikes a note with others.

[ducatiz]

I had a PE57 too, but I bought into the ammo when the Schmidt Rubens first came over.  I bought 6 of those cardboard cases for $90 each, I think they are around 300 each now..  I sold the PE and still have the SR, I like bolt rifles a lot.

My rule now is whenever there is cheap ammo, I buy it whether or not I have a gun for it.

I bought a pallet of Tokarev ammo at 8c/rd and just this week got around to ordering an AR upper in Tok.  I'll pick it up in a few weeks.

i also bought a shitload of 5.45 when it was still 10c/rd.  I don't know if I'll get an AR upper or an AK74.  I don't have to, maybe I'll wait until the prices go up and people start dumping them due to ammo cost.

Ammo is always a winning investment esp milsurp ammo.  When you see some cheap stuff, buy as much as you can afford.  it will always end up running out and you can sell it for more.

Let me tell you about the pallet of Hirt 7.62 I got almost 10 years ago....

[fastwin]

That's why I still have un-opened cases of Norinco ammo that I got in the early 90s. Dirt cheap. As a matter of fact the guy I got it from, Michael Tenny, was one of the founders of Cheaper Than Dirt. He parlayed all that cheap Norinco ammo/SKS sales profits into CTD then cashed in again on the Y2K craziness!! Wonder how many trailer loads of MREs he sold in 1999? Nothing wrong with buying cheap ammo. It always goes up, never down. And they don't run without gas!

[RAT900]

My AMT experience exactly. Thought the mag was dry... and it was considering the last round got stripped off into the chamber. Ahhh, chamber check??? Pulled the trigger to drop the hammer before going into the safe. SURPRISE!! Always pointed out an open garage window straight into the middle of my backyard to dry fire. No harm done on the receiving end. But still feel like a complete dumbass 20 years later. Don't mind talking about it because it reminds me of the lesson learned and hopefully it strikes a note with others.

Yup, mine really shook me up.....more because I have 50 plus years of safe gun handling and never had a f-up on my part

hope this isn't a trend starting

good reminder that no matter how sharp I think I am

my inner-idiot can and will launch successful surprise attacks

and these days I am hyper-vigilant about pulling old-age shit

[RAT900]

Let me tell you about the pallet of Hirt 7.62 I got almost 10 years ago....

I hate you

[fastwin]

Yup, mine really shook me up.....more because I have 50 plus years of safe gun handling and never had a f-up on my part

hope this isn't a trend starting

good reminder that no matter how sharp I think I am

my inner-idiot can and will launch successful surprise attacks

and these days I am hyper-vigilant about pulling old-age shit

Right there with you brother! Like motorcycle riders and the "those that have crashed and those that will crash" saying, accidental discharges are just part of a life long gun handling experience. You spend your whole life trying to not crash or have an AD but somehow they sneak up on you and happen. I tell my 14+ year old step son all the time that he will screw up sooner or later. Just make sure you follow all the other safety rules. The "always point it in a safe direction" rule saved my ass. Not proud of it but I'm also not ashamed to talk about it. Kind of leaves a lasting impression on you. Hopefully it has that effect on others.

[Monsterlover]

Yup, mine really shook me up.....more because I have 50 plus years of safe gun handling and never had a f-up on my part

hope this isn't a trend starting

good reminder that no matter how sharp I think I am

my inner-idiot can and will launch successful surprise attacks

and these days I am hyper-vigilant about pulling old-age shit

I had an AD about 15 or 20 years ago.  Loading up the 30-30 win in the parking lot to go hunting with my dad.  I pushed the first round in, worked the lever to chamber the round and as I was moving the hammer to the safe position it slipped out from under my thumb (wearing winter gloves) and it went off.

Muzzle was pointed at the ground and it rained dirt for a few seconds.  Left a really nice crater.

I load up with bare hands now.

Also, whatever I'm shooting I don't go down range, put it in the car, or lock it up without a mag AND a chamber check.  Well, more specifically (at the range) I don't go down range without locking the action open on whatever I'm shooting.  Since I mostly shoot pistols these days, that comes with dropping the mag out as well.

[fastwin]

More good thinking.