a new life

[El Matador]

Cyrus just asked the most important question. What do you do, and what tools do you have to do it with?

Do you speak any other languages?

South America is doing very well for itself right now, actually. And pprivate education down there far surpasses anything taught in the american system. And its cheap. I studied at the topp school in my country, a private, international school geared towards the offspring of multinationals. Tuition was about 5k a year. I have two high school degrees (IB and a national one) and was light years ahead of my classmates when I entered college in the states.

Right now, the place to be is Brazil. If you have any connection to oil, IT, or entertainment, Rio is your destination. That's probably where I'll end up in a couple.

[muskrat]

to add to El Matador's note, yes South America is a great place.  I concur with the education system there, when I moved here I didn't even crack a book because of the private schooling in Venezuela is that good.  BUT don't go to Bolivia or Venezuela.  Believe it or not Columbia is also a great place and Medellin is beautiful to boot. 

[duccarlos]

to add to El Matador's note, yes South America is a great place.  I concur with the education system there, when I moved here I didn't even crack a book because of the private schooling in Venezuela is that good.  BUT don't go to Bolivia or Venezuela.  Believe it or not Columbia is also a great place and Medellin is beautiful to boot. 

+1 for Medellin. It's also a lot safer than it used to be an Venezuela is now the shithole. I also like Buenos Aires, which is coming back from their economic meltdown from a few years ago. A motivated person can make a ton of money down there.

[cyrus buelton]

Right now, the place to be is Brazil. If you have any connection to oil, IT, or entertainment, Rio is your destination. That's probably where I'll end up in a couple.

I am not sure I would call Brazil all that safe for Gringo's.


also, they are moving away from Petrol and going to sugar-cane based Ethanol.

The big company is Apex Brasil.

[Randimus Maximus]

also, they are moving away from Petrol and going to sugar-cane based Ethanol.

The big company is Apex Brasil.

Not sure how that is relevant to the topic.

Also, why would this be considered to be a "bad" thing?  Brazil has an overabundance of sugar cane.  It is easily processed into fuel.  With their Ethanol and domestic oil production, they are a net zero importer of foreign oil (they still import certain types of oil, but offset it with export of other types).

[cyrus buelton]

Not sure how that is relevant to the topic.

Also, why would this be considered to be a "bad" thing?  Brazil has an overabundance of sugar cane.  It is easily processed into fuel.  With their Ethanol and domestic oil production, they are a net zero importer of foreign oil (they still import certain types of oil, but offset it with export of other types).

1. It was relevant to Matador's post
2. I never said it was a bad thing, did I?


I was mentioning that the sugar-cane ethanol business in Brazil.

Sometimes my friend, you have to read between the lines or must I spell everything out so a first grader can read it?


Booming business = job creation

correct?


And yes, I know about Brazil and it being (I believe) the only self reliant country in the world on energy.

[El Matador]

Venezuela is now the shithole.

Just because we have an Autocratic make the beast with two backshead dictator does not necessarily imply shithole. But sadly, that is where the country is headed.

I am not sure I would call Brazil all that safe for Gringo's.


also, they are moving away from Petrol and going to sugar-cane based Ethanol.

The big company is Apex Brasil.

Now I know you had an uncle / twice removed stepcousin / Dogsitter's boyfriend's cellmate  who once saw a discovery channel special on Brazil where they might have mentioned ethanol. As such, you are now the definitive authority on the subject. But if I were able to submit my completely uninformed, asinine, and irrelevant opinion on the matter, I'll try to explain why you're so damn wide of the mark.

The Massive discoveries in the Campos Basin mean that PetroBras (The big company) has more oil than it knows what to do with, several BILLION barrels. As such, the whole industry is being based out of Rio and a secondary industry is being created to service the main one.

To top things off the world cup is just around the corner, based out of Rio as well. This means that Rio is now the largest growing city in the world, economically speaking. You can't throw a rock in any direction without hitting a job opportunity. Furthermore, policde have finally gotten the favela situation under control, and with the Government's attention focused in turning Rio into the cosmopolitan capital of SA, it means that any gringo that has two fingers of forehead is heading that way, trying not to be too overwhelmed by all the high paying job offers being thrown to them.

Any questions?

[cyrus buelton]

Your post confused me?


1. I mentioned that Brazil isn't very safe in places, more so than other countries. I am not off the mark on that. Maybe Rio has cleaned up their act, but Sao Paolo sure hasn't.
2. I am well aware of the oil industry in brazil, but they also hit a home run with the abundance of sugar cane and their ability to convert that to a viable energy source thus making it a nice export product for other countries.

I have no interest in moving to Brazil for many reasons.

Any questions?

[El Matador]

Your post confused me?


1. I mentioned that Brazil isn't very safe in places, more so than other countries. I am not off the mark on that. Maybe Rio has cleaned up their act, but Sao Paolo sure hasn't.
2. I am well aware of the oil industry in brazil, but they also hit a home run with the abundance of sugar cane and their ability to convert that to a viable energy source thus making it a nice export product for other countries.

I have no interest in moving to Brazil for many reasons.

Any questions?

I thought my post was perfectly understandable 

1. The US isn't very safe in places either. Brazil is safer than others. I doubt you'll be much safer in Compton than in Rio. Government is making sure of that. Even Sao P. is lightyears ahead of what it once was.


2. You are wrong about the industry moving to ethanol. No two ways about it. Not even close.

Questions:

Only one.

Why do you make definitive statements about things that you don't really know about?

[Randimus Maximus]

1. It was relevant to Matador's post
2. I never said it was a bad thing, did I?


I was mentioning that the sugar-cane ethanol business in Brazil.

Sometimes my friend, you have to read between the lines or must I spell everything out so a first grader can read it?


Booming business = job creation

correct?


And yes, I know about Brazil and it being (I believe) the only self reliant country in the world on energy.

While I feel compelled to defend my post, El Matador seems to have done a pretty good job for me.

However, as for "reading between the lines" on your post, I did.

You quoted a portion of El Matador's post which dealt with the business sectors in Brazil that you consider to be booming.

You then mentioned that you did not feel Rio was safe for "gringos".  I took that to have a negative connotation.

You then followed up with the line about Brazil moving to an Ethanol fuel.  You happened to use the word "Also" when starting that thought.  In that case, since the first part of your response had a negative connotation, I took the "also" to indicate the rest of your post to have a negative connotation.

In addition, since El Matador's post included the oil industry, and you mentioned "ethanol" my thinking that your post had a negative connotation was reinforced.

If I misread between your lines, please forgive me.  I must not have a reading comprehension above a first grader.

[il d00d]

And yes, I know about Brazil and it being (I believe) the only self reliant country in the world on energy.

Eh, I can think of at least 12 others.

Someone please retitle this thread "Suggestions on places to move, where the people recommending a destination wouldn't want to move there themselves on account of the place being a lawless wasteland, but we hear they run cars on unicorn tears" 

[cyrus buelton]

If I am so make the beast with two backsing far off, then why is Brazil ranked around 10th in the world in enegery consumption and the majority of it is renewable?

Hydroelectric and ethanol being the largest

Last I checked, natural gas and oil (the two non-renewable energy sources the country uses) aren't renewable; they came from those dinosaurs.






As for safety:

When my company sends people to Brazil (Rio) they get two armed escorts at all times.

A co-worker down the hallway used to run our office in Rio; she had a full-time armed driver.


Last time I traveled on business to San Fran, I didn't have an armed driver........

Unless Mr and Mrs I had some AK's in the trunk.

[somegirl]

Last time I traveled on business to San Fran, I didn't have an armed driver........

Unless Mr and Mrs I had some AK's in the trunk.

I'm a black belt, my hands and feet are my weapons of choice.

When I was in Brazil on business, I didn't have armed escorts, nor did I feel the need for one.  I was in Sao Paolo, Rio, and Foz do Iguacu.

[il d00d]

If I am so make the beast with two backsing far off, then why is Brazil ranked around 10th in the world in enegery consumption and the majority of it is renewable?

Hydroelectric and ethanol being the largest

Last I checked, natural gas and oil (the two non-renewable energy sources the country uses) aren't renewable;

They are renewable.  It just takes a really long time.

[El Matador]

If I am so make the beast with two backsing far off, then why is Brazil ranked around 10th in the world in enegery consumption and the majority of it is renewable?

Hydroelectric and ethanol being the largest

Using and producing are not the same thing. Just because the country also happens to have interests in ethanol production does not mean that it is their main industry, or that they're shifting focus towards it. Throwing up some unreferenced fact does not negate the fact that you made ignorant, erroneous remarks earlier.

As for safety:

When my company sends people to Brazil (Rio) they get two armed escorts at all times.

A co-worker down the hallway used to run our office in Rio; she had a full-time armed driver.

I find this hard to believe. Unless your coworker was some sort of Favela missionary.

I have been to Brasil pretty extensively. I've been to Rio, Sao P, Manaus and Belem. I even went when Sao P was at it's peak sketchyness. Never did I feel threatened. Like every city it has its good parts and its really horrible ones.

Last time I traveled on business to San Fran, I didn't have an armed driver........

Unless Mr and Mrs I had some AK's in the trunk.

Compton is in LA, not San Fran. Very different places.