a new life

[jc.cyberdemon]

so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?

[lethe]

so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?

yes, get your English/Spanish dictionary warmed up, your plane leaves in the morning.

[somegirl]

yes, get your English/SpanishPortuguese dictionary warmed up, your plane leaves in the morning.

fify

[cyrus buelton]

Using and producing are not the same thing. Just because the country also happens to have interests in ethanol production does not mean that it is their main industry, or that they're shifting focus towards it. Throwing up some unreferenced fact does not negate the fact that you made ignorant, erroneous remarks earlier.


I find this hard to believe. Unless your coworker was some sort of Favela missionary.

I have been to Brasil pretty extensively. I've been to Rio, Sao P, Manaus and Belem. I even went when Sao P was at it's peak sketchyness. Never did I feel threatened. Like every city it has its good parts and its really horrible ones.

Compton is in LA, not San Fran. Very different places.

Oil is not Brazil's main industry. Mining mostly makes up that portion of their GDP. Industry is 28.7% of their GDP. Do your homework, son.


I realize using and producing are two different things.

Brazil started experimenting with Ethanol in the 1970's when the world market for petroleum went through the ceiling.

By the mid 80's they were already producing and using ethanol in a high percentage of their vehicles.

Brazil is the largest exporter in the world of Coffee and about 20% of their workforce is involved in agriculture.

Until recently, Brazil just discovered their vast offshore oil reserves and internal reserves which has lead to massive deforestation of the Amazon.

They aren't even one of the top 10 biggest exporters of oil in the world.


Therefore, to say that Brazil is a major player in oil is a big erroneous and ignorant on your part, wouldn't you say?



do your own research; I won't do it for you, but prove me wrong on the above. I'll do it for you.

2008 US State Department Statistics:

Economy (2008)
GDP (official exchange rate): $1.573 trillion.
GDP (purchasing power parity): $1.977 trillion.
Annual real growth (2008): 5.1%.
Per capita GDP (official exchange rate): $8,300.
Per capita GDP (purchasing power parity): $9,700.
Natural resources: Iron ore, manganese, bauxite, nickel, uranium, gemstones, oil, wood, and aluminum. Brazil has 14% of the world's renewable fresh water.
Agriculture (5.8% of GDP): Products--coffee, soybeans, sugarcane, cocoa, rice, livestock, corn, oranges, cotton, wheat, and tobacco.
Industry (28.7% of GDP): Types--steel, commercial aircraft, chemicals, petrochemicals, footwear, machinery, motors, vehicles, auto parts, consumer durables, cement, and lumber.
Services (65.8% of GDP): Types--mail, telecommunications, banking, energy, commerce, and computing.

As for safety........must be my company that sends employees with guards and drivers. Along with most of the major banks in the world.



As for Compton and San Fran...........I know they are different.

It was a joke.

[cyrus buelton]

so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?

Go for it.

Matador will show you the ropes 

[lethe]

fify

picky picky 

[Stella]

so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?

Funny, I was juuusssttt about to post something to the affect of "threadjack"....

Why don't you see if there's something/somewhere in the states that interests you first. (Climate, population, activities, mountains, water, desert, etc.) Find out what your and your wife's strengths are for job hunting/resume' purposes.  In other words, research research research!  

If you're serious, it sounds like you need to start selling stuff to help with the debt load. And do you want to pay to move the stuff you don't HAVE to have, not to mention the hassle of moving it.  Plus, it'll put more $ in your pocket for expenses that you have going on.

Do you have a house/mortgage?  Get referrals for realtors and have them help suggest what you need to do to put your place on the market for the best possible price.   Some real estate companies have relocation departments who can also help you in many ways.   It's possible that if you do have a house, it could be your biggest ball and chain to keep you from moving any time soon.

I knew years ago that I wanted to move from Michigan to Colorado.  After about a dozen years it finally happened but I planned, researched, didn't do it without having a job and visited (non-vacation) to figure out exactly where I wanted to be.  No kids made it much more easy but if you and your wife are in agreement, their ages should have little to do with it.

My personal opinion is that school systems should not be a priority right now.  Figure out where you want to move to, rent and then you may find, after being a part of a particular geographical area, you want to live a community or two away a few years down the road because of a school system you prefer.

There are a lot of resources on the internet besides the DMF to help   Do your home work.  Research!  And most of all, if you decide not to move, don't pregnant dog about how sucky life is.  Do something to make it better with the circumstances and abilities you have!    

[El Matador]

They aren't even one of the top 10 biggest exporters of oil in the world.


Therefore, to say that Brazil is a major player in oil is a big erroneous and ignorant on your part, wouldn't you say?

From Wiki:

Petróleo Brasileiro S.A., is a semi-public[3] Brazilian multinational energy company headquartered in Rio de Janeiro.
Petrobras is the world's fourth largest energy company[4] and the largest company in Latin America by market capitalization and revenue, and the largest company headquartered in the Southern Hemisphere.

Petrobras' most important assets are petroleum reserves in Brazil. Its oil field in the Campos Basin accounts more than 80% of the Brazilian oil production. The company also works on developing the "green energy", including biodiesel fuel. Petrobras recently opened its business to the ethanol fuel, facing great competition against the North American ethanol. However, investment in biofuels will represent only 1% of the company's profit between 2008 and 2012.[19]



As for the irrelevant history lesson, Thanks I guess?

Oil is not Brazil's main industry. Mining mostly makes up that portion of their GDP. Industry is 28.7% of their GDP. Do your homework, son.

I never claimed it to be. If you use your self acclaimed higher-than-first-grade reading comprehension you'll be able to ascertain that I only said that ethanol was not their main industry. No more than that.

As for safety........must be my company that sends employees with guards and drivers. Along with most of the major banks in the world.

Isn't this SOP for banks everywhere? Which would make your argument kind of pointless and irrelevant.

Look Cyrus, I can keep doing this all day. You'll try to defend your ignorance based misinformation and I'll keep shooting you down. Just drop it will ya? You already look foolish.

so let me get this straight am i moving to brazil or not?

It's a really good place to be. If you're willing to make a big change it's probably your best bet for finding a good job put of the states. You still haven't said what you do.

[Stella]

Oil is not Brazil's main industry. Mining mostly makes up that portion of their GDP. Industry is 28.7% of their GDP. Do your homework, son.


I realize using and producing are two different things.

Brazil started experimenting with Ethanol in the 1970's when the world market for petroleum went through the ceiling.

By the mid 80's they were already producing and using ethanol in a high percentage of their vehicles.

Brazil is the largest exporter in the world of Coffee and about 20% of their workforce is involved in agriculture.

Until recently, Brazil just discovered their vast offshore oil reserves and internal reserves which has lead to massive deforestation of the Amazon.

They aren't even one of the top 10 biggest exporters of oil in the world.


Therefore, to say that Brazil is a major player in oil is a big erroneous and ignorant on your part, wouldn't you say?



do your own research; I won't do it for you, but prove me wrong on the above. I'll do it for you.

2008 US State Department Statistics:

Economy (2008)
GDP (official exchange rate): $1.573 trillion.
GDP (purchasing power parity): $1.977 trillion.
Annual real growth (2008): 5.1%.
Per capita GDP (official exchange rate): $8,300.
Per capita GDP (purchasing power parity): $9,700.
Natural resources: Iron ore, manganese, bauxite, nickel, uranium, gemstones, oil, wood, and aluminum. Brazil has 14% of the world's renewable fresh water.
Agriculture (5.8% of GDP): Products--coffee, soybeans, sugarcane, cocoa, rice, livestock, corn, oranges, cotton, wheat, and tobacco.
Industry (28.7% of GDP): Types--steel, commercial aircraft, chemicals, petrochemicals, footwear, machinery, motors, vehicles, auto parts, consumer durables, cement, and lumber.
Services (65.8% of GDP): Types--mail, telecommunications, banking, energy, commerce, and computing.

As for safety........must be my company that sends employees with guards and drivers. Along with most of the major banks in the world.



As for Compton and San Fran...........I know they are different.

It was a joke.

STOP ALREADY!   

[cyrus buelton]

From Wiki:

Petróleo Brasileiro S.A., is a semi-public[3] Brazilian multinational energy company headquartered in Rio de Janeiro.
Petrobras is the world's fourth largest energy company[4] and the largest company in Latin America by market capitalization and revenue, and the largest company headquartered in the Southern Hemisphere.

Petrobras' most important assets are petroleum reserves in Brazil. Its oil field in the Campos Basin accounts more than 80% of the Brazilian oil production. The company also works on developing the "green energy", including biodiesel fuel. Petrobras recently opened its business to the ethanol fuel, facing great competition against the North American ethanol. However, investment in biofuels will represent only 1% of the company's profit between 2008 and 2012.[19]



As for the irrelevant history lesson, Thanks I guess?

I never claimed it to be. If you use your self acclaimed higher-than-first-grade reading comprehension you'll be able to ascertain that I only said that ethanol was not their main industry. No more than that.


Isn't this SOP for banks everywhere? Which would make your argument kind of pointless and irrelevant.

Look Cyrus, I can keep doing this all day. You'll try to defend your ignorance based misinformation and I'll keep shooting you down. Just drop it will ya? You already look foolish.

It's a really good place to be. If you're willing to make a big change it's probably your best bet for finding a good job put of the states. You still haven't said what you do.

I am an ignorant moron. I am not educated and dumb. You got me.


No, that is not SOP for banks everywhere.


By the way, I am very familiar with Brazilian industry.

I had three interviews with a Brazilian Steel Company 4 years ago and decided against the move as I ended up deciding I didn't like the culture of the company. The job was in Tampa, FL.

Why do you think my wife moved to Ohio instead of me to Florida?

[Stella]

TAKE IT TO A PM!

[Pip]

TAKE IT TO A PM!

Pissing Match? Sac just started a thread for them. 

[muskrat]

Brazil requires a Portuguese dictionary 

Seriously though look into Colombia, Peru, Chile and Argentina if this is really what you want.  I do like Brazil but damn the traffic! 

[Triple J]

I wouldn't mind Rio. Good moto roads? They building any tunnels? Does it rain a lot there? I can do without rain for a while.

[superjohn]

yes, get your English/Spanish dictionary warmed up, your plane leaves in the morning.

They speak Portuguese in Brazil. Spanish won't get you that far.