Open VS Closed clutch?

Started by desmodoktor, August 21, 2010, 09:46:16 AM

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truckinduc

no im not saying you will gain anything. I just believe it will take longer to start slipping due to overheating.

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Quote from: D Paoli on August 21, 2010, 07:05:37 PM
The dry clutch is the only major thing missing from that bike.

I have to respectfully disagree with this statement. While I will agree the wet clutch is definitely not cool, the brakes on the 848 suck once the pace heats up a little. And the bike seriously needs a damper.
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Quote from: Monstermash on August 22, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
I have to respectfully disagree with this statement. While I will agree the wet clutch is definitely not cool, the brakes on the 848 suck once the pace heats up a little. And the bike seriously needs a damper.

848 brakes suck...really? I agree about the damper, but the brakes are more than adequate.

duccarlos

I would love to swap out my wet clutch, but for the money, I might as well sell my bike and buy an S2R 1000.
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Quote from: duccarlos on August 23, 2010, 07:57:59 AM
I would love to swap out my wet clutch, but for the money, I might as well sell my bike and buy an S2R 1000.

Or swap in a 1000DS motor.
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I never had an issue with the dry clutch on my duc and the cover was never opened, or cleaned out, in a solid 30K miles.

A clutch should not require the maintenance some people have mentioned in this thread.
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Monsterlover

I agree with the dave.

The "better cooling" argument is a lame excuse.

Clutches get opened up because being able to see spinning things is cool and the sound is cool.

It's 100% cool factor 0% reliability improvement.
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The cooling issue is relevant but not for normal street use.
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Triple J

Open clutches do let the clutch dust out. If I ran my MTS closed, the clutch would start making a moaning sound right at take-off after about 3K miles. I'd have to remove the cover and blow it out with air to make it quit. Didn't seem to affect performance, but it was annoying.

When I switched to open I never had to do that again.

koko64

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Quote from: MrIncredible on August 23, 2010, 12:34:32 PM
I never had an issue with the dry clutch on my duc and the cover was never opened, or cleaned out, in a solid 30K miles.

A clutch should not require the maintenance some people have mentioned in this thread.

I went from DP open carbon cover to stock closed. Sounded like a chaff cutter. Have to say I only open up the cover to clean/service the clutch when changing the plates or springs.

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Quote from: Triple J on August 23, 2010, 01:35:49 PM
Open clutches do let the clutch dust out. If I ran my MTS closed, the clutch would start making a moaning sound right at take-off after about 3K miles. I'd have to remove the cover and blow it out with air to make it quit. Didn't seem to affect performance, but it was annoying.

When I switched to open I never had to do that again.

Yeah I reckon that's true having tried both.
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Monstermash

Quote from: Triple J on August 23, 2010, 06:13:58 AM
848 brakes suck...really? I agree about the damper, but the brakes are more than adequate.

Maybe for casual street riding the brake are adequate. That being said, the word "adequate" doesn't exactly translate into steller. The 1098 brakes are an entirely different story. Do you realize the 848 comes with the same calipers that are on the 696?

Have you ever ridden an 848 at the track? I have and believe me the brakes completely suck ass once the pace heats up. After two laps the brakes began to fade and I couldn't hit my markers consistantly without fear of going into the turn too hot. It doesn't exactly exude confidence.
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