Cheap Xenon?

Started by Bizzarrini, June 09, 2008, 02:48:34 AM

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Bizzarrini

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Bizzarrini

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He Man

Xenon is a gas and running an electric arc through it excites the atoms and causes it to produce light. Atleast tahts how i think it works. Those look like they are litterally blue halogen light bulbs. Plus it would be a rip off since you only need one H4. I wouldnt bother with it.

LUKE

I purchased something like this.  I got them because they are brighter than stock and I often take back roads home.  That being said they nothing more than normal bulbs with blue on the glass.  True HID is on my shortlist.


olivs

what about these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PREMIUM-XENON-DUCATI-MONSTER-620-695-S4RS-HID-Glare_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35621QQihZ020QQitemZ300231746320QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

is it just bulb replacement or any other kind of wiring is needed? will the temperature be to high for the glass\plastic components?

mmakay

True HID set-ups can be had for as little as $85.  That's all I spent and the difference is night and day (pun fully intended).  Blue bulbs won't help you see any better, no matter what they claim.
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RandyFloyd

I'd go with either HID's or Sylvania Silverstar's...

He Man

My biggest question is, what is the quality of the Ballast for those cheapie $85? Because ive been dying to pull the trigger on a set of 2 Bixenon ballasts+bublbs+ wire harness. ( i have duals ). The cheap ebay ones can be had for as little as 125 bucks.

peaveybassist

Search on DML for the HID stuff from hondatech. I got mine for $95 I think with a slim ballast and plugs to just plug'n'play with the H4 setup. Cheap and it has worked well so far. I've had it for about 4 months now. Awesome badass light output.

knightrider

imo never buy bulbs that have a blue coating, the coating accually cuts down on the available light output and its only for looks. hid look is just that, a look, not the performance.  and you have to be careful with putting hid into a halogen housing because you will cause glare for oncoming drivers and is illegal in most states.
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northerncalguy

Agree with others in the thread that true HID is the best option for clarity and brightness while riding at nite.

On a related note, for those that have HID & ballasts, does your lamp ever "not turn on" during at startup? I've found that I need to flick the high beam on and off after starting the engine to get the lamp to fire. I think this is somehow related to a relay, but not quite sure...I have the one from the bspec guys that I found through the Honda forums.

He Man

Quote from: northerncalguy on June 09, 2008, 04:46:18 PM
Agree with others in the thread that true HID is the best option for clarity and brightness while riding at nite.

On a related note, for those that have HID & ballasts, does your lamp ever "not turn on" during at startup? I've found that I need to flick the high beam on and off after starting the engine to get the lamp to fire. I think this is somehow related to a relay, but not quite sure...I have the one from the bspec guys that I found through the Honda forums.

thats usually the sign of a dying ballast or a cheap one that is unable to generate the right voltage to start the light. Again, cheap bixenons can be had for under $60 per bulb+ballast. THe question becomes whats the quality of those chinese ballasts?

Heath

PIAA Xtreme White Plus Bulb- H4 Single Pack Part #PIAA-15214  is what I run and I love it.  I got it off eBay, if you look on the TOB there was a website for bulbs from Europe.  Supposedly they have ones that last longer then ones we can get in the states.
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NAKID

Quote from: RandyFloyd on June 09, 2008, 11:32:21 AM
I'd go with either HID's or Sylvania Silverstar's...

I have a Silverstar and I like the additional output.
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Drunken Monkey

A few manufacturers make make conventional bubs with xenon vs the usual inert gas they use. I call these bulbs HID-lite (no pun intended) and they do give a slight boost to the light (but not much)

Not really worth it, IMHO.

So +1 on the Silverstars if you're looking to save money (I use one and it's great).

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