Help! Trying to remove the vertical head!!

battlecry · November 29, 2010, 04:20:01 PM

Like dp said, the thickness of the base gasket sets the volume of the combustion chamber and impacts the compression ratio and the timing belt tension. You should replace it with one of the same thickness. I do not know if the thickness is stamped on the face of the gasket or you will need a caliper or a micrometer. You may want to call ahead, I never assume they have the parts I need in stock.

ducpainter · November 29, 2010, 04:25:11 PM

Quote from: svp88 on November 29, 2010, 04:01:47 PM

typing mistake.. meant to put the ``:)`` sorry.

I thought I pissed you off by saying we wouldn't laugh...too loud.

desmodoktor · November 29, 2010, 04:33:37 PM

Quote from: humorless dp on November 29, 2010, 04:25:11 PM
I thought I pissed you off by saying we wouldn't laugh...too loud.

piss me off??? wtf? come on u cant be serious??
i really appreciate it you guys are helping me with your answers.
we all love ducs and enjoy riding them .. . . .aaaand fixing them...
+ this is not the place to be pissed off or make fun of other riders.

all im trying to do is save myself 2 grand.

ducpainter · November 29, 2010, 05:08:23 PM

Quote from: svp88 on November 29, 2010, 04:33:37 PM

piss me off??? wtf? come on u cant be serious??
i really appreciate it you guys are helping me with your answers.
we all love ducs and enjoy riding them .. . . .aaaand fixing them...
+ this is not the place to be pissed off or make fun of other riders.
all im trying to do is save myself 2 grand.

After you've been around a while longer...

you'll realize I'm rarely serious...the laughing smiley is named after me...before I changed my screen name to humorlessdp.

Good for you for trying. We'll be here to help. It's all good.

Novelo · December 07, 2010, 03:18:21 PM

I used board sponsor CommonWealth when I needed to get a head gasket they have a pretty fantastic parts catalog too.
http://www.store.commoto.com/parts-ordering.php
I also saved some cash by making my own tool to remove the head nuts. I simply took the apporiate box end wrench and socket then pressed them together in a vice. Wish I hadn't washed my memory card from my camera with the pictures of when I had my head apart it would be usefull right about now. I was like you and did the job my self, made a bunch of mistakes but I eventually got everything back together amd working.

desmodoktor · December 07, 2010, 04:07:41 PM

Quote from: Novelo on December 07, 2010, 03:18:21 PM
I used board sponsor CommonWealth when I needed to get a head gasket they have a pretty fantastic parts catalog too.
http://www.store.commoto.com/parts-ordering.php
I also saved some cash by making my own tool to remove the head nuts. I simply took the apporiate box end wrench and socket then pressed them together in a vice. Wish I hadn't washed my memory card from my camera with the pictures of when I had my head apart it would be usefull right about now. I was like you and did the job my self, made a bunch of mistakes but I eventually got everything back together amd working.

thank you for showing me that website. i really like it .. but u were a little to late coz i already got raped by the dealer.. 6$ for the gasket.

i got all the tools already. just waiting for the dealer to get the gasket and i ll open it up. i ll take pictures of everything and post them here once the job is successfully done.

desmodoktor · January 09, 2011, 05:04:38 PM

hello everybody.
Sorry i haven't posted anything in so long , ive been really busy with work.
Today i had all day to work on the bike.
Got to remove the cylinder.
here are some pictures of the progress ive made so far

Howie · January 09, 2011, 05:35:40 PM

The gasket should be coated with sealant.

greenmonster · January 10, 2011, 05:06:58 AM

Where your LH finger points here
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs051.snc6/168113_10150372304075113_579190112_16881186_6706763_n.jpg
there should be an Oring.
If not, and PO sealed that oil passage w sealant, it could probably be the reason
for the oil leak.

ducatiz · January 10, 2011, 05:11:47 AM

ducatiz · January 10, 2011, 05:17:15 AM

yep, missing o-ring

you actually did it! you apparently know more than you originally let on!

use a tiny bit of grease to keep the orings in place when you're sliding things down.

i use rtv head gasket silicone for mine.

have used it on a variety of heads and never fails. best trick for me is to put a small bead, smear it flat and let it sit for about a minute until it gets slightly tacky. if you torque the head down too quickly, it will be too liquid and will completely push out.

i doubt you'll have issues, but inspect your studs and use new nuts. I also use the silicone UNDER the nut. It squishes out and covers just enough that it prevents corrosion. Same trick on a VW head. completely optional.

battlecry · January 10, 2011, 05:59:42 AM

Bravo! I love open bike surgery.

Ahks · January 10, 2011, 07:12:43 AM

Quote from: battlecry on January 10, 2011, 05:59:42 AMBravo! I love open bike surgery.

You must have a stressful job where this sort of stuff is a picnic :p
I tore down my 94 yamaha i-4 engine and was sweating about the piston rings... and the sleeves are tapered on it for super easy installation. not to mention getting the timing chain right after (took me 3 hours to set it right on the cam gears... the second time). I can't imagine the stress doing this sort of work on a bike I actually care about heh

battlecry · January 10, 2011, 09:39:34 AM

Not really, I'm just old(er). If you grew up with Triumphs and Alfas, you get used to having to tear things up.

nomadwarmachine · January 10, 2011, 10:03:28 AM

Impressive work! Now let's see the video of the first start on reassembly! I'm very impressed -- looks like you took your time.

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Help! Trying to remove the vertical head!!