Your opinion please.

[ungeheuer]

they don't, but google does...

Shekket b'vaka sha!

[zooom]

meshuggah's end of threadjack....

[ducpainter]

ok, who has the translator program?

you guys sound like computers.  i know what you were trying to say, but that's not how it's said colloquially..

It's the lord's hebrew.

Kinda like the kings english.

You know how things get bastardized over the years.

[ungeheuer]

It's the lord's hebrew.

Kinda like the kings english.

You know how things get bastardized over the years.

Perfect example right there.  Bastardised is what the King would've said (if he coulda managed all 'em syllables in the one word that is).

[ducpainter]

We should probably stop jacking _big's_ thread.

[ungeheuer]

מ×" ×–×" " אנחנו "?

[ducpainter]

מ×" ×–×" " אנחנו "?

מא×"ים, עורך ×"×"ין, ל×'ין שיכור ... אנחנו.

[ungeheuer]

מא×"ים, עורך ×"×"ין, ל×'ין שיכור ... אנחנו.

Ah...those "we"... Fair enough.

In that case, I think the wikileaks guy is....um... courageous  (<< euphemism) 

[derby]

Even if it wasn't for the 'leaks' the dude has warrants for two rape charges. I'm sure he's a real charmer.

about those rape "charges":

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/19/world/europe/19assange.html?_r=1

from what i can tell, assange still hasn't been charged with a crime and is officially "just wanted for questioning".

http://www.undispatch.com/what-an-interpol-red-notice-actually-means

[Kopfjager]

מא×"ים, עורך ×"×"ין, ל×'ין שיכור ... אנחנו.

Hey....this is America, speak Spanish....god dammit. 

[il d00d]

More food for thought.  In, ahem, English...
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/11/overseeing_state_secrecy

"Organisations such as WikiLeaks, which are philosophically opposed to state secrecy and which operate as much as is possible outside the global nation-state system, may be the best we can hope for in the way of promoting the climate of transparency and accountability necessary for authentically liberal democracy"

I'm not sure I buy that.  I don't believe in the case of the state department that secrecy they employ results in preventing some necessary transparency.  Neither are they autocratic - diplomats are appointed directly by the president, and typically their appointment lasts the duration of the administration.
I will say it has been nice to know what goes on.  And the experience to me has been kinda like kicking over a log, expecting to find roaches and millipedes and finding a family of bunnies.  Judgmental, gossipy bunnies.

If you're worried about the quality of those serving in the state department, there's this:
http://euobserver.com/24/31394
"It sets a benchmark for diplomacy. Our reports are incredibly long and written in a kind of administrative jargon. We have no opinions. We hide our opinions behind bureaucratic language because we are not allowed to have opinions in a highly hierarchical structure."

[sbrguy]

all I can say...there should be a 5th option of neither hero nor villian, just a capitalist piece of shit who is trying to elevate himself by leveraging other peoples lives and information to elevate his own stature...

ummh that basically defines exactly who everyone in power is. 

sorry but if you think world leaders are not leveraging and elevating their own power using other peoples live and information, then maybe you are on to something.

but i would have to agree with you on "neither" because he is basically doing what every person ina position of power does, which is elevate their own worth in some way by exploiting or using others.  if you can't do that, than you are not a good person in power.   

[mitt]

Hey....this is America, speak Spanish....god dammit. 

      

[DoubleEagle]

you gotta be kidding me. What make the beast with two backsing planet do you live on, dude?

Supposedly this guy that downloded the stuff is gay and was pissed off because of the possibility of changing " Don't ask, Don't Tell ."

I've got my sources and that's all I'm going to say about that.

Dolph

[derby]

Supposedly this guy that downloded the stuff is gay and was pissed off because of the possibility of changing " Don't ask, Don't Tell ."

I've got my sources and that's all I'm going to say about that.

Dolph

i've seen the discussions alleging private manning's orientation, but none of them correlate that with the leak of information...

honestly, i don't even see how one can positively influence the other.