ATGNFI

[bigiain]

Also, what does he wear when he rides and has he ever crashed?

He quite famously (locally) crashed one of these at Eastern Creek a few years back, wearing the appropriate full race gear. I saw him the weekend before last, and he was wearing a tshirt and leather vest with jeans and engineers boots and a half-face helmet and riding the VMax. A ride earlier this year he was wearing a two piece leather suit and a full face and riding his ~240hp BKing.

He wears what he considers appropriate, and rides to suit his gear.

Which is pretty much _exactly_ my philosophy these days.

I'll still advise learners and inexperienced riders to wear ATGATT, because they don't have the experience with which to make judgements about what's appropriate, and they may not have the skills to moderate their riding style to help ameliorate the risk of less gear.

But don't make the beast with two backsing preach to me about it!

I know the arguments, I've made my decisions, I'll respect your decisions. Give me the same respect... (especially if you've ridden fewer miles in your entire life than I've done since winter...)

big

[Howley]

+1 on sac's first post.
No offence intended, and I'm sure boris can take it, but personally, from what I've read of his stuff, I think he's a make the beast with two backswit.

[Popeye the Sailor]

When Spidey shows up at Zeitgeist, 12 blocks from his place, in race boots and full leathers and a back protector, I smile with a mixture of amusement and surprise. _BUT_ I don't have a wife and two kids and a mortgage supplied by a professional career that'd be _severely_ impacted by a 4 week hospital stay. So I just smirk t him (actually, it's Spidey, I probably stir him about it, but that's 'cause of _him_, not the ATGATT).

You think the guy who's surfed more pavement than the rest of the board combined should wear any less? 

[SacDuc]

Big,

Your last two posts explained in full a concept that was barely able to be gleaned from the original article. They were informative and written with conviction without being arrogant, preachy or douchey. Thank you. I think you should write for moto magazines and this Boris character should spend his time waving his prick at people who might give a make the beast with two backs. Its all well and good that he is smart, well informed, a good and experienced rider, etc but if he can't make a simple coherent point without alienating damn near everyone who lays eyes on his work he should shut up and save the page for someone with something helpful, informative or funny to say.

Does he have naked pictures of his editor's wife with a goat or something? I truly can not understand how someone gets paid for writing something of such poor quality. What you wrote off of the top of your head was 100x better not just in terms of information but also stylistically.

In any case, thanks for the translation. You can read between the lines of any other articles you find interesting please post up. But not the original please.  

sac


/and the few blocks between Spidey's house and the bar can be make the beast with two backsing nerve wracking!  

[SacDuc]

I know the arguments, I've made my decisions, I'll respect your decisions. Give me the same respect... (especially if you've ridden fewer miles in your entire life than I've done since winter...)

big

Soooooo . . .  if newer riders have the exact same attitude toward gear that you had when you were a newer rider they are completely wrong for it even though you would advise them to have that attitude toward gear considering the fact they are newer riders.

Got it.





sac


/its all just part of someone's personal evolution as a rider
//not everyone will get to the same place you are and no one will get there the same way

[MadDuck]

Threads like this make this forum all the more fun.

Entertainment value.............. priceless 

[sbrguy]

I was _probably_ insufferable. I'd scorn and deride people who _I_ thought were "not wearing appropriate gear", or riding in a way I considered dangerous, or didn't share any of another bunch of ill informed opinions I held at the time. ("You ordered a beer at lunch? While on your bike? You're an idiot!" - yeah, I was one of _those_ guys...)

But I've mellowed.

It's the people like I used to be that annoy me - the ones who want to tell me what _my_ opinion of appropriate gear should be.

Exactly, that is the point of the article that i read that basically EVERYONE INCLUDING THE AUTHOR of the article is a MORON and nobody should be thinking they are "superior" or have it right.

everyone has to make their own decisions. and the author of the article is showiing how he is bieing a complete douchebag by passing judgement on others without knowing anytihng about the other riders except what they wear, which is exactly what ATGATT people sometimes do.

He may think he is better than others but really the point of the article is that he is really saying he knows nothing about anything by being so
arrogan.

[koko64]

I've crashed with and without gear.

Gear wins.

[SacDuc]

I've crashed with and without gear.

Gear wins.

Maybe. But your only reach super-god-like-moto-king status when you can look into the future and know exactly how much gear you need before you even ride that day. Never wear one stitch more than your ESP tells you to or "you are doing it wrong." Until then you are and "insufferable dickhead" with no clue. Sorry. Those are the rules.



Until that magical day arrives you may want to keep the gear on.

sac

[koko64]

I need to strengthen my KI.

This will surprise you, but Boris has written some insightful, intelligent critiques of government transport policy. He has highlighted government manipulation of accident statistics and exposed anti motorcycling policies with good research and argument. That was not one of his better articles.

He should also address the NGNFI brigade.

[GAAN]

the coolest motorcyclist I ever saw

had no gear on

and

the trail of blood from getting her head crushed by her own bike

made it across a 4 lane highway

with a turn lane no less

I pumped 2 full litres of fluid through her in 30 minutes before her heart stopped

totally make the beast with two backsing cool man

the blood I mean

made it across a 4 lane highw...oh I mentioned that already

[ducpainter]

I've crashed a bunch of times both on the street and track. I guess I have no skills.

I wear gear and have walked away every time.

I don't really care what some Aussie wanker thinks of me.

I'll continue to wear gear.

I don't care what you want to do and rarely suggest what someone else should do.

[koko64]

A back protector saved me in a racing incident. Leading a group of riders into a sharp right hander a crash behind me knocked me down with a rider riding over my lower back.
Besides a bruised arse I checked out ok by the medics, fixed the bike and went into the next race.

The track is safer than the street.

I wear armour every time on the street, including back protector.

How different my life might have been without that back protector.

ATGNFI is better than NGNFI.

[booger]

I wear the gear because I want to lessen the damage to my body when the time comes for me to wipe out. I don't want to do it, I have to. It's expensive, takes time to put on & it's hot & uncomfortable. I've been riding for over twenty years and only crashed my little YZ moto bike at 13, and there's the two times I got hit by cabs commuting to work via bicycle in downtown DC. Those incidents hurt really bad. Goddamned right gear would have helped me, especially the elbow armors. Had a crunchy sound coming from my elbow for a year after that last cabbie ran me over.

[Pedro-bot]

Enjoyed the read. Satire or not it was well written and got the writers opinion across very well.

I subscribe to the, "could care less what you think about me philosophy."
But I care enough for you to know that I don't care. 

I don't have time to explain why I do what I do. I don't care to make time to listen to you explain why you do what you do either. 

Carry on.