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Started by Monsterlover, January 31, 2011, 03:39:33 PM

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Monsterlover

#585
April 10, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
So in the interest of keeping the general population informed of the goings on in the cnc world I thought I'd let you know about the dark side of cnc machines.

Sometimes they break.

For no reason other than because sometimes electronics fail.

And laugh at you the whole time you're looking at them trying to diagnose the issue over the phone with Mazak, and then with Mitsubishi (who made the evil box in the first place)

These machines have "drives" that control each axis motor and the spindle.  A few days ago my spindle drive on the lathe turned evil.  The machine just shut off all of the sudden (except the screen) and displayed #15 alarm (a red alarm too, so it's more serious)

15 System Malfunction does not bring good feelings when you read it.

On your machine.

The upside is that both Mazak and Mits were spot on over the phone and really knew their shit.

My drive was obsolete and they didn't even have the parts on hand to repair it.  They had an updated drive that would work for me. 

One in stock.

I ordered it red on my credit card to speed the process up.  I would have shit if someone else bought it in the meantime.

So my machine was down for a day.

New drive showed up in the morning, we set it up and i swapped it in.  It worked, to my delight.

$3800 for that box of evil.

that will fail again someday on a day of its choosing.

The upside is that I called my insurance agent on a whim, just in case, and damned if it wasn't covered.  $1000 deductible and I'm back in business.

So the morel here is that while these machines are awesome and make cool stuff for your bikes, they have an evil side that demands money from you at random and inopportune times.
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DarkMonster620

#586
April 10, 2012, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on April 10, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
So in the interest of keeping the general population informed of the goings on in the cnc world I thought I'd let you know about the dark side of cnc machines.

Sometimes they break.

For no reason other than because sometimes electronics fail.

...

So the morel here is that while these machines are awesome and make cool stuff for your bikes, they have an evil side that demands money from you at random and inopportune times.

As do ALL machines . . . ;D
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Slide Panda

#587
April 10, 2012, 11:27:23 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on April 10, 2012, 11:04:24 AM

The upside is that I called my insurance agent on a whim, just in case, and damned if it wasn't covered.  $1000 deductible and I'm back in business.


Least you had that brain wave on the first go and not after doing this a few times.  [thumbsup]
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
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Monsterlover

#588
April 10, 2012, 11:28:33 AM
I don't know about ALL machines. . .

I have a few that have treated me well.

I won't name them, though, as that would just encourage them

;D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Monsterlover

#589
April 10, 2012, 11:29:24 AM
Quote from: Sad Panda on April 10, 2012, 11:27:23 AM
Least you had that brain wave on the first go and not after doing this a few times.  [thumbsup]

Anything to get out of footing that whole bill ;D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

cokey

#590
April 10, 2012, 01:53:12 PM
Now go make a new drive... lol..
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Monsterlover

#591
April 10, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
I have little to no understanding of electronics.

All I know is it's a box, magic happens inside, and my machine makes parts.

;D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

lethe

#592
April 10, 2012, 04:37:26 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on April 10, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
I have little to no understanding of electronics.

All I know is it's a box, magic happens inside, and my machine makes parts.

;D
I'm sure that that would be light years out of my range of ability too.  :P
I'd know enough to be able to take it apart, recognize a bunch of stuff and then be able to put it back together with it still not working.
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ZLTFUL

#593
April 19, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
So when ya gonna get some of these machines? I would be there tomorrow if you had even more cool kit like this there!



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Slide Panda

#594
April 19, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
So when are we going to see ML brand KTM parts?  ;D
-Throttle's on the right, so are the brakes.  Good luck.
- '00 M900S with all the farkles
- '08 KTM 690 StupidMoto
- '07 Triumph 675 Track bike.

Monsterlover

#595
April 19, 2012, 05:16:04 PM
Ive thought about lc8 air boxes and light flywheels.

What else is there?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Monsterlover

#596
April 19, 2012, 05:30:51 PM
Quote from: ZLTFUL on April 19, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
So when ya gonna get some of these machines? I would be there tomorrow if you had even more cool kit like this there!



I am particularly fond of the laser engraver!

You obviously don't realize what I've got at my shop ;)

What time should I expect you tomorrow?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducpainter

#597
April 19, 2012, 05:34:15 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on April 19, 2012, 05:30:51 PM
You obviously don't realize what I've got at my shop ;)

What time should I expect you tomorrow?
Right after I finish roofing. ;D
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DRKWNG

#598
April 19, 2012, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on April 19, 2012, 05:16:04 PM
What else is there?

Sport1000 (Mono please) rear sets!
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Buckethead

#599
April 19, 2012, 06:04:39 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on April 19, 2012, 05:41:24 PM
Sport1000 (Mono please) rear sets!

This.

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