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Author Topic: JHP Ducati 2V SBK 1088 cc (120 hp, 300lb)  (Read 32212 times)
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« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2011, 07:07:47 PM »
no no!  That wasn't intended, please don't take it that way. 

I've been down the road I described MANY times, I just won't let it happen again.
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« Reply #61 on: February 21, 2011, 07:12:18 PM »
i know, and no offense taken!  kind of a tongue in cheek thing over here for me seeing in the garage!

It would be alive and running by now had I not invested in a real heap of a 900 to practice my fixxer-upper skills.
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« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2011, 07:19:30 PM »
My 1098 R weighs 363 lbs. dry @ 175 RWHP w, full race Termi and DP ECU

That's 2.07 lbs. per 1 hp

The JHP bike is 2.5 lbs. per 1 hp

I bet the JHP bike costs more than my R cost new ,which was MSRP $40,000 +tax and fees.

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« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2011, 08:46:21 PM »
Quote from: DoubleEagle on February 21, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
My 1098 R weighs 363 lbs. dry @ 175 RWHP w, full race Termi and DP ECU

Out of curiosity have you verified that weight?  Wink
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« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2011, 09:07:53 PM »
It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.
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« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2011, 10:09:55 PM »
Quote from: Triple J on February 21, 2011, 08:46:21 PM
Out of curiosity have you verified that weight?  Wink
No,

I take Ducati's word on that.

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« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2011, 10:13:22 PM »
Quote from: TAftonomos on February 21, 2011, 09:07:53 PM
It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow.
Who rides a fast bike slow ?

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« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2011, 10:40:14 PM »
Quote from: DoubleEagle on February 21, 2011, 10:13:22 PM
Who rides a fast bike slow ?

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more people than you'd imagine. (but they simply "NEED" that much power!)
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« Reply #68 on: February 21, 2011, 11:14:21 PM »
Quote from: a m on February 21, 2011, 10:40:14 PM
more people than you'd imagine. (but they simply "NEED" that much power!)
I'm sure there are those that can't put that much power to good use ....I'm not one of them.

I ride to the edge ...not sayin' there aren't faster riders on the road.

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« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2011, 12:52:05 AM »
Quote from: DoubleEagle on February 21, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
My 1098 R weighs 363 lbs. dry @ 175 RWHP w, full race Termi and DP ECU

That's 2.07 lbs. per 1 hp

The JHP bike is 2.5 lbs. per 1 hp

I bet the JHP bike costs more than my R cost new ,which was MSRP $40,000 +tax and fees.

Dolph    Smiley

Wet weight, we don't drive them dry. 1 gallon of gas weighs (6lbs) 4qts of oil (?) plus battery. Now do the math.
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« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2011, 01:41:16 AM »
Quote from: kopfjäger on February 22, 2011, 12:52:05 AM
Wet weight, we don't drive them dry. 1 gallon of gas weighs (6lbs) 4qts of oil (?) plus battery. Now do the math.
Isn't the JHP bike weight quoted Dry ?

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« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2011, 04:35:35 AM »
Quote from: DoubleEagle on February 22, 2011, 01:41:16 AM
Isn't the JHP bike weight quoted Dry ?

 

knowing Douglas the way I do, if it is "dry", that means without gas in it, otherwise ready to go.
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« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2011, 08:27:34 AM »
Quote from: DoubleEagle on February 21, 2011, 10:09:55 PM
No,

I take Ducati's word on that.

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You should try to get a real world weight. I'm not bagging on your R...it is definitely a light bike. But Ducati is very optimistic in their weights (as Cycleworld proved with the MTS1200 recently), and their definition of dry likely doesn't even include a battery being in the bike.

Besides all that, I'd still take a 120hp 320lb (wet) bike over a 170 hp 400 lb (wet) bike. It should be significantly quicker handling due to the much lower weight.  waytogo
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« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2011, 08:55:47 AM »
Quote from: Triple J on February 22, 2011, 08:27:34 AM

Besides all that, I'd still take a 120hp 320lb (wet) bike over a 170 hp 400 lb (wet) bike. It should be significantly quicker handling due to the much lower weight.  waytogo

also, you can make a fat bike scoot w/ more power, but you can't hide that weight from the brakes.
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« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2011, 10:47:15 AM »
The manufacturers are very optimistic about their weight and hp/torque ratings.  I like Motorcycle Consumer News because they do their own measurements. They have an 2008 1098S listed at 434 lbs wet with 138 rwhp.
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/articles/2010JanIndex.pdf
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