Tire wear & Slab Riding. - Ways to minimize tire squaring,

Started by Veloce-Fino, February 16, 2011, 08:52:27 PM

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Veloce-Fino

Last season commuting to and from college just once each way resulted in some squaring of my rear tire.

~140 miles each way in blistering heat, all highway.

After making this trip my rear tire on the 696 was noticeably squared.

I'm wondering if lowering the PSI a bit, maybe to the minimum recommended psi or 1-2 lower will reduce the amount of squaring as a result of slab riding.

My only other option is light up the rear tire and wag the bike back and forth and hopefully round it out a bit.
^ - this option sounds more fun.

Any other recommendations?
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Heath

Next time you get tires buy something that is more for touring. Like a Pilot Road 2, it has a harder compound on the center.  I do not know what tires come stock on the newer monsters.

In the meantime maybe change your route up and find more curves.
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Raux

I'm in the same situation 88 km total on autobahn with about 10km of it curves near my house.

I went with the Pilot Road 2
so far not bad, and the profile is more aggressive than the stock so the corners fall in faster.

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: Heath on February 16, 2011, 09:13:53 PM
Next time you get tires buy something that is more for touring. Like a Pilot Road 2, it has a harder compound on the center.  I do not know what tires come stock on the newer monsters.

In the meantime maybe change your route up and find more curves.


The problem is, I will only be making this trip 3-4 times this season.

All my other riding very "spirited" and on some nice twisties.

I don't want to sacrifice grip and control when riding by getting a touring tire when I'm only on the highway a limited number of times.

Quote from: Raux on February 16, 2011, 09:31:59 PM
I'm in the same situation 88 km total on autobahn with about 10km of it curves near my house.

I went with the Pilot Road 2
so far not bad, and the profile is more aggressive than the stock so the corners fall in faster.

I'll look into this. Getting new tires put on for the season. If it wasn't for those couple highway rides I'd get Pilot Pure's, but they would almost certainly square off, even on just one 130m trip.
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ab

I hit the twisty on pilot 2.  Even with that, I had to do 3 tire changes last season alone due to wear. 

The non dual compound got to be too expensive to replace.  I am sticking with dual compound.
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Veloce-Fino

Quote from: ab on February 16, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
I hit the twisty on pilot 2.  Even with that, I had to do 3 tire changes last season alone due to wear. 

The non dual compound got to be too expensive to replace.  I am sticking with dual compound.


http://www.michelinpowerpure.com/en/michelin-2ct-technology.html#2ct-

Interesting diagram of the 2CT and Pure. Basically the same dual compound tire however the pure has more of the softer compound sooner. The 2CT has majority of the stiffer compound.

There is a whole thread on the power pure, going to look into that for my next set. Hopefully the stiffer center compound minimizes the squaring. Based on some reading I just did dropping the psi slightly can help reduce squaring as well.

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He Man

Im not to judge but most people dont really go over the edge on the street whe nit comes to a sport tire. I have the pilot road 2ct at i think 13,000 miles now. its squared, but still lasting. I took it to 3 trackdays and it was very sticky, you can feel it slip it a bit if it got really hot and you were super aggresive, but even then,  i dont think you can reach that on the street.

zooom

MY .02...just a buy a spare rear wheel, and put a hard slab ridin' kind of tire on it and do a wheel swap when you know you are going to do your commute and the rest of the time, you'll have your whatever-floats-your-boat kind of tire on regularly...and this way, you'll also remember to check your chain tension/alignment and adjust as necessary maybe a lil more frequently...
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Quote from: He Man on February 16, 2011, 11:17:06 PM
Im not to judge but most people dont really go over the edge on the street whe nit comes to a sport tire. I have the pilot road 2ct at i think 13,000 miles now. its squared, but still lasting. I took it to 3 trackdays and it was very sticky, you can feel it slip it a bit if it got really hot and you were super aggresive, but even then,  i dont think you can reach that on the street.

What size engine do you have feeding that 13,000 mile rear tire?!?

Im running a 180 PR2 on my 950supermoto and it's almost toasted at 4500 miles :o
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Quote from: Monsterlover on February 17, 2011, 06:25:31 AM
What size engine do you have feeding that 13,000 mile rear tire?!?

Im running a 180 PR2 on my 950supermoto and it's almost toasted at 4500 miles :o

S2R1000 Pilot Road 2ct. Its pretty squared off, but it still has tread so  whatever. :P, i wont change it until the cords start showing.

A lot of things factor into life. 70% of it is highway miles, 30% is low speed commuter miles, also the type of pavement you ride on. Concrete i would assume is much rougher than asphalt.

also a supermoto is ridden different.  [thumbsup]

RBX QB

I got 9k on my stock Pilot Power... Roughly 10k so far on my current Pilot Power 2, with some squaring off. Not nearly as square as the original Power was. It's now needing replacement, as I am feeling the wear edge when the tire rolls. Going with the Pilot Road 2 for my next, figure I'll get 50k out of it.  ;D

Most of my ride is short commute, with occasional trips passing 200 miles, both freeway and mountain. I definitely don't ride agressive (except 0-60  [evil]), because my tires seem to last so damn long.


Monsterlover

Huh. I remember when i bought my pr2. I rode to dimby and back, 1200 miles and the rear had already started to square up. Most of that was slab.
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Quote from: Veloce-Fino on February 16, 2011, 08:52:27 PM
Last season commuting to and from college just once each way resulted in some squaring of my rear tire.

~140 miles each way in blistering heat, all highway.

After making this trip my rear tire on the 696 was noticeably squared.

I'm wondering if lowering the PSI a bit, maybe to the minimum recommended psi or 1-2 lower will reduce the amount of squaring as a result of slab riding.

My only other option is light up the rear tire and wag the bike back and forth and hopefully round it out a bit.
^ - this option sounds more fun.

Any other recommendations?

I would think raising it slightly to minimize the amount of tire that is subjected to squaring would be more ideal, but not sure either way

cokey

Quote from: Monsterlover on February 17, 2011, 10:36:46 AM
Huh. I remember when i bought my pr2. I rode to dimby and back, 1200 miles and the rear had already started to square up. Most of that was slab.
could that be from riding on the tire that long and heat being a factor.. rather then the tire hardly warming up on short commutes?
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Monsterlover

Probably not much heat.  10 hours of hard rain put a stop to that ;)
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