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696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Topic: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK (Read 75310 times)
DoWorkSon
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Reply #90 on:
March 10, 2011, 11:12:00 AM »
I spoke to desmoworks regarding a map for the setup I will be running with. They only had a map for slip ons... Nothing for anything more modified. They were supposed to be searching around, but I never heard back.
So I went with the powercommander route and will have it custom tuned. I wish I could have had the ecu reflashed for the map I wanted and also raise rev limiter and delete the o2 sensors... But it's just not an option unless you want to pay nearly twice as much...
So for those going te power commander route, I should have a map avail soon for pod filters, and exhaust.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 10, 2011, 11:33:29 AM »
Another update for everyone. Ryan sat down with local fabricator today. Price will be about $40-50 a person, and that is with them powdercoated black. Would be cheaper without powdercoating, but to prevent rust and have it look good, powdercoating is the way to go. The fabricator is a long time ducati rider, and seems very interested in the project and knows what he is doing... He will be emailing the final numbers to us tonight or tomorrow. This will include a "prototype" model so we know everything will be am exact fit...
Expect then ready to ship soon.
If you havnt pm'd me, please do with you email address so I can put you on the mailing list.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 10, 2011, 11:40:21 AM »
what did you end up doing about the coils?
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2-Skinny
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 10, 2011, 11:54:22 AM »
One coil needs to be mounted on an open space on bracket, the other (closer to front wheel) is up to end user to find a home for. A stip of 1/8 aluminum should be able to hold it ok.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Reply #94 on:
March 10, 2011, 12:15:56 PM »
Quote from: 2-Skinny on March 10, 2011, 11:54:22 AM
One coil needs to be mounted on an open space on bracket, the other (closer to front wheel) is up to end user to find a home for. A stip of 1/8 aluminum should be able to hold it ok.
Do they need to be isolated from the frame? They are mounted to the plastic airbox now.
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DoWorkSon
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March 10, 2011, 12:42:13 PM »
It's hard to determine where to place the forward most coil due to every bike being different.
Some people have eliminated the charcoal canister, some still have it. Some people have moved different components or installed oil coolers(or have them stock) and this changes the entire front end of the engine area.
I plan on making a small bracket using the mounting points of where the charcoal canister used to be.
I wouldn't mount the rear coil to the frame, but with the elimination of the air box, it opens up a lot of space and possibilities to where to mount them.
Once we get everything installed, we will be tackling where to mount the coils. But, I do not see it being a huge set back/difficulty. Right now, It is hard to determine where to mount them because nothing is installed and there are many loose components. Once it's all buttoned up and everything is in place, then securing the coils somewhere will take place.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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Reply #96 on:
March 10, 2011, 12:49:25 PM »
While I may be incorrect, I believe you are required to leave the charcoal cannister on the bike if registered in California.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 10, 2011, 12:54:48 PM »
Quote from: a m on March 10, 2011, 12:49:25 PM
While I may be incorrect, I believe you are required to leave the charcoal cannister on the bike if registered in California.
You are correct a m , but California doesn't require inspections or smog checks on motorcycles so what they don't know won't hurt them. Also, eliminating the charcoal canister doesn't affect operation of the bike and it looks better.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 10, 2011, 12:59:19 PM »
Quote from: a m on March 10, 2011, 12:49:25 PM
While I may be incorrect, I believe you are required to leave the charcoal cannister on the bike if registered in California.
It may be a law/regulation to only sell a bike(from dealership, brand new) with one, or there might be some weird DMV regulation requiring a charcoal canister for an inspection if you are bringing in a bike from out of the state/country and registering it in CA.... But I can guarantee I have never heard of any law that says you must have one on while riding around. I cannot think of a single vehicle code that says anything about it. They do not smog or inspect bikes here when they are sold from one person to another.... And I know many of the laws
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 10, 2011, 07:15:29 PM »
Quote from: Raux on March 10, 2011, 11:05:03 AM
I know the German location, Ducati Saarland, where they can produce some maps, but apparently there finally is one place in the states where they are making Rexxer maps, Redline performance in Yorktown, VA. Not sure if Desmoworks in CA is doing the maps, but they sell it.
So if you guys are near either place you can talk to them directly.
I talked to Chris the other day. Their local Daniele Moto location in Germany is just a warehouse, the tuning is in Turin, so not likely i can take a quick trip til summer. I would need a van full of parts to test all the configurations you guys are coming up with.
I've dealt with Redline & bought a mapped PCV He sells for the 2010 Multistrada, He figured out a way around the Multis's ECU, o2 sensor closed loop & has a PCV that allows full tuning from idel to redline. So I'll give him a call and see if He'll make a Rexxer map for this set up. But I'm not sure if He would have the capability to email the map to those of us who have the Rexxer User. I'll see what He says & post up.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 11, 2011, 10:40:48 AM »
Quote from: Link on March 10, 2011, 07:15:29 PM
I've dealt with Redline & bought a mapped PCV He sells for the 2010 Multistrada, He figured out a way around the Multis's ECU, o2 sensor closed loop & has a PCV that allows full tuning from idel to redline. So I'll give him a call and see if He'll make a Rexxer map for this set up. But I'm not sure if He would have the capability to email the map to those of us who have the Rexxer User. I'll see what He says & post up.
Can you ask him the same about bypassing all that for the monsters who are using the PC?
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 12, 2011, 07:26:10 AM »
Quote from: DoWorkSon on March 11, 2011, 10:40:48 AM
Can you ask him the same about bypassing all that for the monsters who are using the PC?
I will when I speak with Him (I sent him an email no response yet) but a few months ago when getting the Multi set up we talked a bit about the Monster ECU and He said they were a tough nut to crack & the Multis ECU which is a Mitsubishi was easier. At the time I already had the Rexxer on the 696 so I wasn't to concerned about the 696 ecu. I'm pretty sure He hasn't figured out a way around the closed loop o2 sensors on the Seimens. On the Multi the ECU will disable the o2 closed loop system if the outside air temp is below 40 degrees so Redline made a device that plugs into the sensor and fools it into thinking that it's always below 40 degrees which then allows full mapping of A/f ratios with a PCV from idle to redline. It's kinda ironic that on a complicated bike like the Multi which has about 4 or 5 different ECU's something so simple & cheap allows you to tune the bike & on the 696/1100 a much simpler bike it's taken years to get these things tuned.
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 13, 2011, 07:07:00 AM »
It turns out Redline can map your stock ecu for this mod using the Rexxer. Just tell him exactly what pods your using. The Rexxer will allow full tuning no o2 sensors. As far as the guys with a PCV you should contact Him directly & see what He can do.
Quote from David at redline,
"I can do any kind of mapping you’d like. I can do a PCV version and a MOD map for a RexXer unit. Let me know how you would like for me to proceed. David"
David Lillard
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Redline Performance Motorsports Inc.
7331 George Washington Memorial Highway
Yorktown, Va. 23692
Telephone: 757-989-5000
Fax: 757-989-3591
http://www.redlinemotors.com
david@redlinemotors.com
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Re: 696/796/1100 Airbox Eliminator Bracket for Pod Filters/ Velocity Stacks <-- LOOK
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March 13, 2011, 07:10:55 AM »
looks like I need to figure out how to take a ride through VA to get a custom map made for my 1100, 2" wide boom tubes, cams, and soon to be pods.
interesting to know someone on the east coast is doing this.
8 hour highway ride.....
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March 13, 2011, 03:18:54 PM »
Quote from: mattc7 on March 13, 2011, 07:10:55 AM
looks like I need to figure out how to take a ride through VA to get a custom map made for my 1100, 2" wide boom tubes, cams, and soon to be pods.
interesting to know someone on the east coast is doing this.
8 hour highway ride.....
With your mods I would make that trip ! Nothing like a good custom map to make a bike run like it should.
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