M1100S vs M1100 EVO

Started by asherrick, April 11, 2011, 06:29:30 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

asherrick

I'm toying with the idea of upgrading from my M696 to an M1100. The question is, which M1100? I'm not really in love with the EVO's exhaust routing and cans and I miss the Ohlins option on the old M1100S. On the other hand I love that the EVO has traction control, ABS, and more power. I'm on the fence with the wet vs. dry clutch until I ride an EVO. Thoughts?
'09 M1100s

mattc7

check around to see if there are any new 1100S left as overstock.  Save a few Gs and put it in afterward. 

exhaust is easy to change, but a dry clutch is what it should be.

jvax



If it were me, and if budget was not a question, I'd get the EVO then change the exhaust.

With the 1100 EVO, you get ABS, DTC, more power (higher compression ratio, thus more horse power), a more comfortable seat (new design introduced with the 796). 

The EVO weighs 1kg less than a 1100S ABS.  Also comes with better rear foot pegs, attached to the subframe.  And, I prefer the black wheels.

... but that's just me  ;D

Whichever you end up buying, you'll end up loving it!





'08 R1200GS
'10 M796 ABS Black (Sold)

DukeDenver

Dry clutch, nuff said!  [moto]

asherrick

Quote from: jvax on April 11, 2011, 07:08:15 PM
I'd get the EVO then change the exhaust...Also comes with better rear foot pegs, attached to the subframe. 
Agreed. I wonder if there will be any fitment issues with those new rear pegs and after market exhausts. I'm sure my wife would appreciate the new exhaust location.

Quote from: jvax on April 11, 2011, 07:08:15 PM
And, I prefer the black wheels.
I'll bet the EVO wheels aren't magnesium like the ones on the 1100S.
'09 M1100s

Triple J

#5
Quote from: asherrick on April 12, 2011, 09:33:02 AM
I'll bet the EVO wheels aren't magnesium like the ones on the 1100S.

I seriously doubt the 1100S stock wheels are magnesium. Got a source? The Ducati website just says "light alloy". I think they'd advertise the shit out of offering Magnesium wheels.

Anyway, I'd probably get whichever was cheaper, although I may lean towards the EVO. DTC isn't all that useful on an air-cooled 1100 motor IMO, and the exhaust difference is a wash since it always gets replaced. ABS would be nice though, and I prefer wet clutches for everyday riding.

Slow Guy

both ugly..but no dry clutch is a no go...i actually like the exhaust on the EVO over the cones on the 1100 and more power is a very good thing.

bikepilot

IIRC, and my memory could be off, the 1100S had forged aluminum wheels like most other S model ducatis.  Magnesium wheels are quite unusual on a production machine (at least in recent history).  Forged aluminum is great though - quite light and durable.  Approx equal to cast magnesium for weight IIRC and likely more durable.  Forged magnesium are lighter still of course but $$$$.

I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the ohlins on the 1100S - they are pretty but not all that sophisticated.  Esp the rear shock - a pretty basic unit.
2009 XB12XT
2006 Monster 620 (wife's)
1997 TL1000S
1975 Kawasaki H1 Mach III
2001 CR250R (CO do-it-all bike)
2000 XR650R (dez racer)
2003 KX100 (wife's)
1994 DR250SE (wife's/my city commuter)

asherrick

Quote from: Triple J on April 12, 2011, 09:40:59 AM
I seriously doubt the 1100S stock wheels are magnesium. Got a source? The Ducati website just says "light alloy". I think they'd advertise the shit out of offering Magnesium wheels.

I may be wrong on that one...but I did think the 1100 S had lighter wheels than the regular 1100.
'09 M1100s

mattc7

Quote from: asherrick on April 12, 2011, 02:17:15 PM
I may be wrong on that one...but I did think the 1100 S had lighter wheels than the regular 1100.

Cast aluminum on both.  Only difference was color

xplodee

Regarding the 1100s-

The wheels are regular cast wheels, same as on other monsters but gold in color.
The ohlins suspension is great, the forks are particularly great, but like was said earlier the shock isn't all that nice, only adjustable for rebound if I recall correctly. Still the suspension is definitely very nice.
The seat is kinda crappy compared to the new evo seat, but that only costs $170 to upgrade.

I'd buy whatever is cheaper, you can't go wrong with either.
2009 M1100s
1988 Honda Hawk GT (track)

Past Bikes:
1995 Ducati Supersport 900CR
2007 Ducati Sportclassic S1000 SE

IZ

Not really a fan of the single sided exhaust but I'd get the EVO if given the choice again.  The exhaust on this 1100 is a killer.  Even after ceramic coating the header, it's still burning.  It's not even that hot here yet in the valley yet.    :-\
2018 Scrambler 800 "Argento"
2010 Monster 1100 "Niro" 
2003 Monster 620 "Scuro"



Quote from: bobspapa on May 29, 2011, 08:09:57 AMThis just in..IZ is not that short..and I am not that tall.

thought

Quote from: IZ on April 12, 2011, 09:25:42 PM
Not really a fan of the single sided exhaust but I'd get the EVO if given the choice again.  The exhaust on this 1100 is a killer.  Even after ceramic coating the header, it's still burning.  It's not even that hot here yet in the valley yet.    :-\

yeah... they should list out "standard seat warmers" as a feature on the new monsters...  those headers snaking through the subframe makes it super hot after a while.
'10 SFS 1098
'11 M796 ABS - Sold
'05 SV650N - Sold