Must read Ignitech TCIP 4, Ca-Cycleworks exact-fit coils, Spark plug info

Started by avizpls, April 26, 2011, 05:46:40 AM

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junior varsity

That seems like an odd catalyst for the box to fail - don't big bore kits sometimes advise the use of different plugs too? 

avizpls

yeah, all I can think of is BEMF. More resistance, less BEMF after the spark.  ??? fingers crossed it works, thats all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-electromotive_force

Resistive plugs are recommended in many electronic ignition systems. Its not an unreasonable requirement, but a shame that they are SO dependant on it.





Lets not get ahead of ourselves, though. Previous failure modes leave me to believe there is still a moderately high probability of failure this weekend
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junior varsity

y'know, when my ignitech failed, i was using the DCPR8E's like normal...but i suppose it may have been the D8EA's

avizpls

Just another tidbit

I did put on my plate and lil headlight and went out for a 45minute ride around town. Survived that.

God, I hope this works!
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turbodude

Thanks for posting regarding the resistor type plugs.  I have an old ignitech unit I bought from Norm way back when they first started selling them.  It's been in my tool box for 3 years now.  I was just getting ready to install it when I read this post. 

When I get ready to hook it up, I will switch to the DR8EA as I am running D8EA now.   

avizpls

so.....I made it through the day today without a hitch.

I....guess.....it was the....plugs!  [bang]  [clap]
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koko64

2015 Scrambler 800

ducatiz

Quote from: avizpls on May 14, 2011, 03:33:20 PM
so.....I made it through the day today without a hitch.

I....guess.....it was the....plugs!  [bang]  [clap]

wowzers... that's great you figured it out.  now do they post that R plugs are required on their site?
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koko64

Quote from: ducatiz on May 14, 2011, 08:41:24 PM
wowzers... that's great you figured it out.  now do they post that R plugs are required on their site?

They recommend it to avoid 'electrical disturbance' in the section that covers faults. They say to use resistor plugs and leads.
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avizpls

Now, when I spoke with them on the issue (email rather) I asked specifically if I should use resistive plugs AND resistive leads. Having not read this that you cite, I didnt know what answer to expect. The answer: Do NOT use resistor wires along with resistor plugs.

Whatever....it seems to work

andI have a ten pack of DR8EA plugs now
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ducatiz

Quote from: avizpls on May 16, 2011, 05:12:31 AM
Now, when I spoke with them on the issue (email rather) I asked specifically if I should use resistive plugs AND resistive leads. Having not read this that you cite, I didnt know what answer to expect. The answer: Do NOT use resistor wires along with resistor plugs.

Whatever....it seems to work

andI have a ten pack of DR8EA plugs now

resistance is additive.  you'd use one or the other, that's what i've been told.  on old ducs, the bikes came with resistor spark caps -- no R plugs.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

avizpls

Im super stoked to have the QuickShifter functionality back.
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koko64

Actually, the Igniteck site mentions resistor plugs and "connectors', so I'm guessing they mean plug caps. I'm running R plugs and NGK plug caps with the Kelley coils insulated 7mm wires.

Any of you sparkies have any thoughts?

2015 Scrambler 800

greenmonster

#103
Good it worked out.

From Ignitech FAQ:
Quotec) Interference (disturbance) â€" We recommend to use plugs or plug connectors with resistor.

What type of wires & caps are the Eact-fit coils sold with?
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

avizpls

#104
they are a non resitive setup and they are made to fit the threaded connectors as on the plug on left.


NGK R plugs are not necessarily resistive. It must have R in the part number. for example....
This is not necessarily a resistive plug.



This is, as the part number is CR7EIX


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