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ducatiz

#105
May 16, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
All NGK "R" plugs are resistor plugs:

http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/techinfo/spark_plugs/faq/faqresistor.asp

Quote from: avizpls on May 16, 2011, 07:00:40 AM
they are a non resitive setup and they are made to fit the threaded connectors as on the plug on left.


NGK R plugs are not necessarily resistive. It must have R in the part number. for example....
This is not necessarily a resistive plug.
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avizpls

#106
May 16, 2011, 07:07:09 AM
Huh. OK. I didnt think they were ALWAYS resistive.... [thumbsup]

this is the full breakdown of part number



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ducatiz

#107
May 16, 2011, 07:10:38 AM
Quote from: avizpls on May 16, 2011, 07:07:09 AM
Huh. OK. I didnt think they were ALWAYS resistive.... [thumbsup]

this is the full breakdown of part number





the R refers to their (formerly) proprietary resistor design in the plug.   i want to say they pioneered it, but i am not sure.  it would explain why old bikes had resistor spark CAPS but not resistor plugs.
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avizpls

#108
May 16, 2011, 07:17:08 AM
good info thanks. Keep in mind that with as much as I DO know.....I was utterly unaware that there were two types of plugs, R and non-R  [thumbsdown]
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ducatiz

#109
May 16, 2011, 07:22:00 AM
Quote from: avizpls on May 16, 2011, 07:17:08 AM
good info thanks. Keep in mind that with as much as I DO know.....I was utterly unaware that there were two types of plugs, R and non-R  [thumbsdown]

:-)
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

greenmonster

#110
May 16, 2011, 08:14:22 AM
Quotegood info thanks. Keep in mind that with as much as I DO know.....I was utterly unaware that there were two types of plugs, R and non-R

And maybe Chris was unaware, too, and this is just an unfortunate mix of parts which led to unit malfunction.
Very understandable & could have happened to anyone, I guess.
F sure could`ve happened to me, haven`t read the Ignitech FAQ until today..... :-[
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07

ducatiz

#111
May 16, 2011, 08:25:15 AM
Quote from: greenmonster on May 16, 2011, 08:14:22 AM
And maybe Chris was unaware, too, and this is just an unfortunate mix of parts which led to unit malfunction.
Very understandable & could have happened to anyone, I guess.
F sure could`ve happened to me, haven`t read the Ignitech FAQ until today..... :-[

I wonder what his reply will be on this? 
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avizpls

#112
May 16, 2011, 08:29:35 AM
Well Chris didnt send me the plugs I used. I bought those all on my own. I THOUGHT I saw a recommendation  for them on his site, but now I don't and I may have never  [drink] /  [coffee]

I hope someone saves themselves a headache from all of mine.  [bang]
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ducatiz

#113
May 16, 2011, 08:30:49 AM
Quote from: avizpls on May 16, 2011, 08:29:35 AM
Well Chris didnt send me the plugs I used. I bought those all on my own. I THOUGHT I saw a recommendation  for them on his site, but now I don't and I may have never  [drink] /  [coffee]

I hope someone saves themselves a headache from all of mine.  [bang]


post a summary in your initial post?

the headache is usually reading through all of our bullshit
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

avizpls

#114
May 16, 2011, 08:48:08 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on May 16, 2011, 08:30:49 AM
post a summary in your initial post?

the headache is usually reading through all of our bullshit

good call. Lets find an avatar for that.....  [beer] no I used that one....


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junior varsity

#115
May 16, 2011, 10:20:54 AM
Now, I know things are done differently by different manufacturers and in other countries, however -

I did not know there were any substantial resources on the Ignitech website. I did not know there were requirements for plugs. I did not receive a manual that included any of this, a "Read Me First" flyer, or any warning stickers on the apparatus.

I would not be paying for a replacement if it was plug related - its not up to me to do additional homework not advised or given notice of requiring when ordering a product and reading over the literature that comes with it.  I would would highly encourage the manufacturer to appropriately label the device with such a requirement if it would lead to total failure, and include the FAQ's along with a pamphlet-manual with the device. The disc could include this, but warnings such as this are common to be found in separate bright colored print outs with an electronic device, and common in the motorcycle-specific electronics area.

avizpls

#116
May 16, 2011, 10:22:42 AM
yeah, well....im sick of this activity--->    [bang]

so I'll just pay (im assuming it wont be outrageous but we'll see I guess) and have good backups at the ready. I'll put them on other projects even
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junior varsity

#117
May 16, 2011, 10:25:00 AM
I may also, but I need to check my spark plugs for the one that I had go dead - wouldn't start bike and wouldn't respond to computer...  not sure what was the cause of that, if it was resistor plug/wire related, or something else.

ducatiz

#118
May 16, 2011, 10:30:23 AM
Quote from: avizpls on May 16, 2011, 10:22:42 AM
yeah, well....im sick of this activity--->    [bang]

so I'll just pay (im assuming it wont be outrageous but we'll see I guess) and have good backups at the ready. I'll put them on other projects even

so will you still sell me one for $50?  :-)
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

avizpls

#119
May 16, 2011, 11:05:10 AM
I find the use of the word "still" to be slightly confusing.

Probably not. I mean....I've been called a hoarder, but....I can use these to some extent. Race fuel/track map and a pump gas/street map unit comes to mind. I want to build a sick go-kart, and I have a KTM that could use one. There-thats 4

I'd really rather just keep them (in one piece) for myself.

Lets see how much they tell me for repair.
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