Tactical Shotgun

[cyrus buelton]

Funny, that's usually when you get rolling. 

Very true, but this topic will further piss me off and I'll get a suspension and/or banning.

[hbliam]

well considering Heather Fong can't even get off her bony ass and spend some time at the range, i don't feel so secure...  shouldn't be carrying a sidearm without regular range time.

Thought we were talking about beat cops? 

[ducatiz]

Thought we were talking about beat cops? 

nope, we were talking about tactical shotguns and you had to come in with all that kraut subgun crap

[hbliam]

nope, we were talking about tactical shotguns and you had to come in with all that kraut subgun crap

LOL. Just pointing out that we rarely use shotguns to clear rooms. I like 'em though. I'm thinking of picking up a Wilson to go with my WC 1911.

[Sinister]

Very true, but this topic will further piss me off and I'll get a suspension and/or banning.

You usually do that when you are on the losing side of an argument/thread.  buh bye

[cyrus buelton]

You usually do that when you are on the losing side of an argument/thread.  buh bye

I didn't realize there was an argument going on with an actually winner.

It is a matter of opinion on the topic.

[hyphen]

Well there you go.

SWAT comes out on barricaded suspects and the like. For every barricaded suspect call there are 100 homes, business's, etc to clear. The average LA County beat cop has access to either an MP5, AR15, and a shotgun. Call a sergeant and you get a tactical blanket, beanbag shotgun, 40mm launcher, etc.

True that there are few firefights if you tabulated all the police encounters on any given day. Keep in mind though that patrol gets in more firefights then SWAT.   

You are absolutely right. You don't need most gizmos for the average thug. The baton, which has been in use since the caveman works wonders and is as low tech as you can get.

My point is...the new tactical shotguns with the ghost rings sights, tac lights, and pistol grips are easier to use well, then the tried and true stock 870. 

actually, i take what i said back.  i forgot that lapd ramped up after the north hollywood incident.

[c_rex]

I'd rather have a shotgun for room clearing, but then again, I am just an accountant.

fully automatic stapler my man... FASB approved!   
I don't miss that line of work- not one little bit (no offense).  I just wasn't cut out for it.

[cyrus buelton]

fully automatic stapler my man... FASB approved!   
I don't miss that line of work- not one little bit (no offense).  I just wasn't cut out for it.

I have a FASB and a GAAP approved


bwaaaaaaaaa

[Sinister]

I have a FASB and a GAAP approved


bwaaaaaaaaa

Now you need holsters on each hip!!!  You'll be like the Clint Eastwood of Accounting.

[Smiling End]

I have a FASB and a GAAP approved


bwaaaaaaaaa

Do you have a GAAS badge?

[ducatiz]

LOL. Just pointing out that we rarely use shotguns to clear rooms. I like 'em though. I'm thinking of picking up a Wilson to go with my WC 1911.

this is the only gun LAPD should be allowed:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2507254.html

[cyrus buelton]

this is the only gun LAPD should be allowed:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2507254.html

[cyrus buelton]

True that it depends on jurisdiction. In So Cal rooms are cleared by patrol with sidearms, MP5's or Ar15's mostly. Maybe one guy will bring in a shotgun.

If it's a SWAT call out it's MP5's and AR's and again, one guy with a shotgun.

What department in "So Cal" are you talking about?

LAPD?

[hbliam]

What department in "So Cal" are you talking about?

LAPD?

I could start a long list but what for? We carry full auto MP5's in all of our units, CHP has AR's in all of theirs. I have friends at dozens of departments and they all have options other then a shotgun either in the vehicle or quickly accessible.

Quit arguing Cryus.