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Started by RubberDuckyS4, May 23, 2011, 06:29:33 PM

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May 23, 2011, 06:29:33 PM Last Edit: May 23, 2011, 07:00:15 PM by RubberDuckyS4
And found some oil on them  :(

I went for a ride today and had some funky idle issues, and have had them intermittently lately.  When I came to a stop it would sputter and die on me (which was not fun at the metering light to get on the freeway) so I started just trying to keep the revs up a little at stops until I got home to check out the motorcycle a little.

I'm new to Ducati's but not to basic engine know-how, is this a sure sign that I've got some seals that are failing and I'm getting oil into the combustion chamber?  I did check Ducatisuite and it said pretty much that but I'd like some input from you guys and gals if you don't mind.  Also I just bought this bike used and have no idea when the last tune up was, I'm in the process of changing all the fluids/spark plugs.  

Here's the pics I snapped really quick:



Any help is appreciated, I'm gonna keep scouring the forum for answers in the mean time.  Thanks!

Speeddog

#1
May 23, 2011, 10:39:44 PM
What year and model of Monster?
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64duc

#2
May 24, 2011, 05:07:33 AM
 That is normal for my '94 900. Plug tip and insulator (which is where excessive oil in the cylinder would show up) look good.
94 M900, 64 Diana 250

RubberDuckyS4

#3
May 24, 2011, 08:40:05 AM
Its a 2002 S4 (916), I'm going to change them later today and play with my carbs a little and see if that helps the sputter.

Speeddog

#4
May 24, 2011, 10:18:06 AM
What model and heat range of plugs are those?

S4 was equipped with fuel injection, no carbs to play with.
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RubberDuckyS4

#5
May 24, 2011, 12:16:39 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on May 24, 2011, 10:18:06 AM
What model and heat range of plugs are those?

S4 was equipped with fuel injection, no carbs to play with.

Just made a quick assumption, obviously wrong...  [bang].  I don't have the plugs with me at the moment I'll reply with that later before I get some new ones.  Do you think my plugs look bad, and if so could that be playing a part in my sputtering idle?  Thanks Speeddog.

RubberDuckyS4

#6
May 24, 2011, 02:18:36 PM
The plugs are the original "Champion RA 59 GC" plugs.  I don't see a heat rating on them and am having a difficult time finding some online.

Speeddog

#7
May 24, 2011, 04:36:20 PM
The OEM Champion RA 59 GC plugs are ~$30 each.
If you find them anywhere on line for less than that, please share.

I'd run 'em as is, they look alright.

I suspect your problem lies elsewhere.

How many miles on your bike?
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#8
May 24, 2011, 08:50:16 PM
Its got 16,XXX on it.

bobtrude

#9
May 25, 2011, 02:56:11 PM
I bought theese and got them shipped to norway :). The shop wanted 40$ for one  :P

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170551879721&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:MOTORS:1123

Great service and cheap plugs.

wiredbeans

#10
May 25, 2011, 05:34:30 PM
check the rectifier, and also the ground connection on the ECU

you never know. This is a common problem on the 1098

ducatiz

#11
May 25, 2011, 07:01:06 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on May 24, 2011, 04:36:20 PM
The OEM Champion RA 59 GC plugs are ~$30 each.
If you find them anywhere on line for less than that, please share.

$8 each

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May 25, 2011, 07:06:36 PM
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#13
May 25, 2011, 07:09:38 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 25, 2011, 07:06:36 PM
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#14
May 26, 2011, 06:15:11 AM
You just crawled to the back of the line.
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