New monster tank swelling

[The Bearded Duc]

Not sure if this is in the right section.

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I might be trying to get my hands on a new monster in the next year. So I'm curious if there are any swelling issues with the new monsters.

Also, if there are any other issues any of you new monster owners care to share I would appreciate it. I'm mostly interested in the 1100 but any insight would be helpful.

Thanks guys and gals.   

[timeforpoptarts]

From what I've read the swelling is any of the Ducati bikes with plastic tanks. I have a brand new 796 and I am worrying about this myself. The dealership told me to put in Shell V-Power (93 octane) into the bike because it has less ethanol, I've also read that here, but a lot of people seem to be getting their shops to coat the inside of the tank with a special formula (Caswell) that seems to be working.

[The Bearded Duc]

From what I've read the swelling is any of the Ducati bikes with plastic tanks. I have a brand new 796 and I am worrying about this myself. The dealership told me to put in Shell V-Power (93 octane) into the bike because it has less ethanol, I've also read that here, but a lot of people seem to be getting their shops to coat the inside of the tank with a special formula (Caswell) that seems to be working.

I've read about the Caswell "remedy" as well, I guess that's just one of the added costs of having a new/er Ducati.   

[rosstermyer]

my 2 year old m1100 tank has def expanded some, but it is less noticeable due to the tank being "skinned"

[The Bearded Duc]

my 2 year old m1100 tank has def expanded some, but it is less noticeable due to the tank being "skinned"

I figured the skins covered up the swelling a bit.

Are there any re-fittment issues with servicing? I assume, because of the wonderful engineering of Ducati, that the tank bladder needs to be completely removed for major services? (i.e. valves)

[thought]

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25074.msg809084#msg809084

it'll have the issue, but it'll be less prevalent due to the fact that there are tank skins... that being said, i caswell'ed my 796.  did it during the winter so it didnt cut into the riding season.

off the top of my head, and i dont know how bad the old monsters were, but the new monsters get pretty hot... esp the ones with the undertail exhaust.  dunno if the m1100evo will have as much of an issue with the new headers though.

accessing the battery is a bit of a PITA due to the fact that you need to take off the tank skins and then pull off the fuel tank to get to it.

it seems that there might be a breather hose issue with the new monsters where you can get a vacuum sound when opening the gas cap.  it's happened to more than one person, and it seems that the breather hose can collapse from the heat of the engine.  the quick fix is to remove the charcoal canister.

cant really think of that much else that's annoyed me offhand... been running perfectly fine for me in every other aspect.

oh, if you're getting a used 1100, look into getting a 796 seat and/or the 796 risers.  makes the bike a lot more comfy and it's pretty cheap too.  the new evo's come stock with them i believe.

[Povidius]

My 1.5 year old 696 has NOT expanded at all.  

[thought]

My 1.5 year old 696 has NOT expanded at all.  

it's made from the same nylon so it'll eventually happen

[thought]

oh, and using the shell 93 octane wont really help... E10 is E10, and in fact, they use ethanol to bump up the octane rating for gas.

[The Bearded Duc]

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25074.msg809084#msg809084

it'll have the issue, but it'll be less prevalent due to the fact that there are tank skins... that being said, i caswell'ed my 796.  did it during the winter so it didnt cut into the riding season.

off the top of my head, and i dont know how bad the old monsters were, but the new monsters get pretty hot... esp the ones with the undertail exhaust.  dunno if the m1100evo will have as much of an issue with the new headers though.

accessing the battery is a bit of a PITA due to the fact that you need to take off the tank skins and then pull off the fuel tank to get to it.

it seems that there might be a breather hose issue with the new monsters where you can get a vacuum sound when opening the gas cap.  it's happened to more than one person, and it seems that the breather hose can collapse from the heat of the engine.  the quick fix is to remove the charcoal canister.

cant really think of that much else that's annoyed me offhand... been running perfectly fine for me in every other aspect.

oh, if you're getting a used 1100, look into getting a 796 seat and/or the 796 risers.  makes the bike a lot more comfy and it's pretty cheap too.  the new evo's come stock with them i believe.

This is great info, thanks thought!!   

I live in LA so I don't really have any seasonal downtime. Guess I'll cross that bridge when/if I decide to get one.

And thanks for the info on the seat and risers, although I'm more a fan of clip-ons so I may go that route.

Keep the info coming guys!!

[Slide Panda]

The dealership told me to put in Shell V-Power (93 octane) into the bike because it has less ethanol.

Did that dealer sell you blinker fluid also? E10 is mandated by laws a line of gas for a brand isn't going to be exempt. V-power is 10% corn pee just like the rest unfortunately. That individual is misinformed

Just run the octane gas recommended by ducati for your bike. If it's not 93 premium you're not getting any real benefit for the added cost

[iRam]

Ive noticed my 796's tank is off center. Its moved to the left quite a bit to the point where its almost touching the ignition Key slot. Just got off the phone with my local duc dealer and they asked me to bring it in for some pics.
Took the skins out yesterday to inspect but i didnt notice anythin unusual, no warping or anythin. I hope its just the mounting but the guy at the dealer suspects swelling. If it is infact swelling, they said theyll replace it.

Im thinkin about doin the caswell treatment if i get a new tank. Has anyone had experience with it? And does it work as advertised?

[ducatiz]

Did that dealer sell you blinker fluid also? E10 is mandated by laws a line of gas for a brand isn't going to be exempt. V-power is 10% corn pee just like the rest unfortunately. That individual is misinformed

Just run the octane gas recommended by ducati for your bike. If it's not 93 premium you're not getting any real benefit for the added cost

E10 is not mandated by Federal law and only five states mandate it: Minnesota, Montana, Missouri, Hawaii and Oregon.

They are actually paid to do it, and Congress is voting whether to renew the ethanol subsidies right now.

[Raux]

Ive noticed my 796's tank is off center. Its moved to the left quite a bit to the point where its almost touching the ignition Key slot. Just got off the phone with my local duc dealer and they asked me to bring it in for some pics.
Took the skins out yesterday to inspect but i didnt notice anythin unusual, no warping or anythin. I hope its just the mounting but the guy at the dealer suspects swelling. If it is infact swelling, they said theyll replace it.

Im thinkin about doin the caswell treatment if i get a new tank. Has anyone had experience with it? And does it work as advertised?

I actually notice the same on my bike. I'm going to check the mounting tabs for shift or being loose first.

[iRam]

il have them check it tomorrow.