New EVO Monster

[the_Journeyman]

That white & red combo in the link is a nice color combo.  I still REALLY like the blue/white on the S4R too ~

JM

[lazylightnin717]

 I still REALLY like the blue/white on the S4R too ~

JM

+1

I've always loved that color combo more than any other. Too bad they didn't use it on an RS. I'm sure it would look sharp with the gold Ohlins  

[Jimmy Ducati]

The one I'm looking at bright and early is Black and what appears to be a silver stripe. I would prefer white, but we'll see in person.

But the used Streetfighter market is a little better than i thought so that is becoming an option I might pursue a bit more before finally
buying something.

[lazylightnin717]

Streetfighter is the new S4RS. It has a good bit more motor though and is a pretty badass bike all around. It certainly retains that raw, uncompromising Ducati feel to the way it rides.

[Jimmy Ducati]

Streetfighter is the new S4RS. It has a good bit more motor though and is a pretty badass bike all around. It certainly retains that raw, uncompromising Ducati feel to the way it rides.

I assume you have not ridden the new EVO? I wonder how the SF and the EVO compare? The shop doesn't have a SF to test.
I also doubt I will be able to test ride the S4RS this morning, but who knows. I've ridden an S2 for a few miles, but I assume
they will not be the same.

[lazylightnin717]

Haven't ridden an EVO however I have been on an 1100S.

IMHO the 1100 had more usable power for the street. I thought it had more immediate torque available in lower rpm's than the SF. The SF wasn't lacking though. It definitely had more top end than the 1100 and seemed more track oriented than anything. I don't think I would want to commute much on the SF because it was really raw.

[Jimmy Ducati]

Well the S4 was a disappointment. It was in very poor condition for only 2100 miles and the asking price.

And rain stopped another round of test drives. I did get to ride the S4 in a parking lot and I must say it
has some low end giddy-yup. Seemed similar to the EVO but would need a back to back to say for sure.

I stopped at Ducati Miami as well to sit on a SF. I don't like the position, so that is out.

On a side note, if the owner of that shop reads this it would have been nice if someone
actually came to me to see if I needed help before I had to go find it. I mean really, the
place was empty with employees sitting around seemingly doing nothing as I wandered
from bike to bike for a good lets say 7 minutes before I bothered someone. I'm glad
there is a shop now closer to me than that place.

[Jimmy Ducati]

I only got to ride the Triple again today, but left feeling that could be the one. What a sweet bike. There is definitely more vibration in the bars than I thought, slightly less than the EVO, but it is really fast and pulls in every gear less torque or not. And I really put it through some slow speed circles, tight U-turns, and figure eights and it's right up there with the 686 in that regard. It cant go quite as tight due to longer wheelbase but it is very balanced in parking lot situations. I commute on my bike, and actually use it, so this attribute is important for me.

Still waiting to see another S4RS before taking the plunge.

[Jaelum]

I did a lot of shopping and test riding before I bought my 1100EVO a couple of weeks ago, and it came down the the Speed Triple and the Monster.  The Triple is a complete beast, no doubt.  For me it came down to three things:

styling - I like the older Triples more than the new, and the new EVO looks great!

character of the motor -The Triumph is incredibly strong, but sounds like a moped at normal speeds and like a weedwhacker on crack at high speed.  It seems much happier in the higher RPM range, which could only lead to (more) speeding tickets. 

ABS - I'm a big believer in ABS, and with it added the new Speedie costs more than the Monster.  Throw in traction control?  Yes, please.


The only thing that made me waver was that the Triumph dealer had a 2010 Anniversary Edition in stock.  Yep, the black one.  Made the "looks" department a lot closer!  Still, I'm very happy with my Ducati - she's the right bike for me.  But I do have a lot of respect for the Triumph.

[motolocopat]

Either one is probably more capable than you are so get the one you like

Just remember... in ten years the EVO will still be a Ducati and the other one will just be a strange jap bike that is missing a cylinder

[Jimmy Ducati]

Either one is probably more capable than you are so get the one you like

Just remember... in ten years the EVO will still be a Ducati and the other one will just be a strange jap bike that is missing a cylinder

I'll buy most of that. The Triumph is much nicer than I thought though. It's not a Duc, but it's not a Kawasaki either.

JUst in case someone cares the EVO valve service is still 7500 miles while the Triple is 12K. So if your factoring that in the S3 is about a grand cheaper to run every 24k miles.

[OneWheelDrive]

+1!!!

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=50228.0

You're welcome!

+1000 on the S4RS  

The 696 is a naked looking scooter (no offense) compared to the S4RS which is a true naked superbike with entirely different power and handling characteristics.  If you can get a good deal on an RS, GO FOR IT!  They don't come up very often, trust me, I looked for a long-ass time for mine.  I almost settled on an 1100 EVO just because I was sick of waiting but am soooo glad I didn't settle.  The old trellis frame couple with Ohlins, 4 pot 320 mm Brembos, an ohhhh, the 4V Testastretta.  Doesn't get any better!  Obviously it's a big step up from the 696, and I can't speak to your experience, but be careful to choose a bike that is within your skill level.

[Jimmy Ducati]

+1000 on the S4RS  

The 696 is a naked looking scooter (no offense) compared to the S4RS which is a true naked superbike with entirely different power and handling characteristics.  If you can get a good deal on an RS, GO FOR IT!  They don't come up very often, trust me, I looked for a long-ass time for mine.  I almost settled on an 1100 EVO just because I was sick of waiting but am soooo glad I didn't settle.  The old trellis frame couple with Ohlins, 4 pot 320 mm Brembos, an ohhhh, the 4V Testastretta.  Doesn't get any better!  Obviously it's a big step up from the 696, and I can't speak to your experience, but be careful to choose a bike that is within your skill level.

No offense taken. However there is no accounting for taste as they say. I happen to love the look of the 696, hate the rear sets, and swingarm if I had to nitpick. If i never had the 696 the 796 would be just about perfect. Now however I need more power captain.

I made the mistake of asking my GF what she thought of the bikes I was looking at and she thought they all looked the same and didn't know why I was selling mine to get one that "looks identical to the one you have." She thinks the S3 in white looks basically the same as my white 696! So to you, myself and those in the know that can see the sometimes slight nuances between the varying monsters, s3's, Mv's, etc that makes one theoretically better than another... but to those that don't give a shite about bikes they are all crotch rockets as my 75 year old Pops calls mine.

[Jimmy Ducati]

Well I finally pulled the trigger and put a deposit down on my new rig.
After all of my test drives and hemming and hawing over what to get
I forgot about my original sleeper pick because I had been unable to see one
in the flesh. As luck would have it, or perhaps me calling every dealer
within 500 miles of me, I finally got to see it in person...

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As soon as I saw it I had to have it, but for wheeling and dealing purposes I didn't want them to know that... I drove the 45 minutes home and immediately called the dealer and gave them a deposit before someone snagged it up. They are very, very hard to find near me right now, and I didn't want to wait to see if more might show up.
I know it's not a Duc, hell some of you thought my 696 wasn't really a Duc, but in person it is really sharp. I haven't even heard it start because it just came out of the crate and wasn't prepped yet. I bought my 696 without a test ride and never looked back, hopefully it is the same here. Should be mine in a week or so. I've already started ordering mods. Will post up thoughts after a few rides.
Thanks for the mammories 

[nikkimonster]

not a duc, but still sexy!