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jfgducat
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Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?
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July 25, 2011, 06:31:42 AM »
so the site Gearing Commander came out with the top speeds of the
Monster 696/796/1100
here it goes top speed on 6 gear stock
696 128.5 MPH sprocket change 14t 119.9- 121.25 MPH
796 137.2 MPH sprocket change 14t 128.1- 129.62 MPH
1100 134.7 MPH sprocket change 14t 125.7- 127.21 MPH
696 1/4 12.31 seconds at 108.07 MPH
796 1/4 11.97 seconds at
112.30 MPH
1100 1/4 11.89
seconds at 112.23 MPH
M696 65.7PS 43.91lb-ft
M796 78.3PS 53.1lb-ft
M1100 81.7PS 67.3lb-f
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/model_eval/Nov2010Monster.pdf
is this the reason why ducati came out with the monster 1100 evo to create a real gap between the two?
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Re: Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?
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July 25, 2011, 08:47:59 AM »
The torque curve is what would make the 1100 a different riding experience. If you intended to have a passenger regularly or do touring with it, that is what a buyer would be concerned about- not that its top speed is 3 mph slower than a 796...
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Re: Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?
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July 25, 2011, 09:06:22 AM »
If you check Gearing Commander, you'll see that they list max rpm different from what's the reality - AFAIK
696 at 9,000 rpm
796 at 8,250 rpm
1100 at 7,500 rpm
So, besides the wrong input - this is theoretical numbers that will be different when wind resistance stops a weaker bike sooner than it stops a stronger bike.
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Re: Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?
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July 25, 2011, 09:19:17 AM »
has anyone tested the 796 and the 1100 whats your feed back?
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July 25, 2011, 02:30:49 PM »
The 1100 has way more usable torque. If one can afford it, I see no reason to consider the 696 or 796.
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Re: Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?
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Quote from: asherrick on July 25, 2011, 02:30:49 PM
The 1100 has way more usable torque. If one can afford it, I see no reason to consider the 696 or 796.
better gas mileage, lower seat height, cheaper insurance, those are the first things that came to mind.
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Quote from: ChrisH on July 25, 2011, 05:58:17 PM
better gas mileage, lower seat height, cheaper insurance, those are the first things that came to mind.
If they can afford an 1100 than none of those are a concern- which is the stipulation asherrick made...
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Quote from: 2-Skinny on July 25, 2011, 06:04:09 PM
If they can afford an 1100 than none of those are a concern- which is the stipulation asherrick made...
I never feel wanting for a larger motor... well when that freaking Ninja took off on me I did, but not sure even the 1100 would have made a difference.
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July 26, 2011, 04:51:43 AM »
Quote from: ChrisH on July 25, 2011, 05:58:17 PM
better gas mileage, lower seat height, cheaper insurance, those are the first things that came to mind.
Not to mention the 796 is a better city bike. I chose the 796 over the 1100 because I already have a Sport 1000, and it can be frustrating riding in traffic - either lugging in second gear or holding it in first. Sure, a sprocket change could help, but the 796 seems much happier without the need for modification. Since I almost never ride on the highway, I didn't see the need for more power. I have ridden the 1100evo as well, and while it wasn't available when I picked up the 796, I still would have chosen the same because it honestly didn't feel very different (and it didn't sound as nice with the stock exhaust, IMO). It probably helps that I only weigh 130lbs at most.
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Re: Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?
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July 26, 2011, 12:35:44 PM »
"wins"
If your only definition of winning is top speed you shouldn't be riding a monster anyway. A more appropriate bike would be a streetfighter or superbike. I seldom ride my M1100 over 80 to 90 but what fun getting there. I have
LOT'S
more fun riding at 45 to 50 on twisties than 100+ straight.
But that's just my opinion...
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Quote from: dennisd on July 26, 2011, 12:35:44 PM
But that's just my opinion...
An opinion I pretty much share. Theoretical "winning" on the stat sheet is of little relevance IMO.
696, 796, 1100..... any Monster... the fun is right here >>
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Re: Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?
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Quote from: 2-Skinny on July 25, 2011, 06:04:09 PM
If they can afford an 1100 than none of those are a concern- which is the stipulation asherrick made...
I could afford the 1100, but I chose the 696.......
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Re: Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?
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Your top speed on the 696 may be off a little...
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I had a 696 but I wanted to get a new Monster. I thought of the 796 but then the EVO came out. I wanted ABS and the EVO is $1000 more than the 796 with ABS. For the extra grand I get the 1100 motor, more adjustable suspension, and traction control. I also really like the look and I think when some new pipes start coming out it will even look better. It fits me better and is more comfortable for me than the 696 because I am tall with long legs and arms. To me all this was worth an extra $1000. I will probably never (actually most definitely) see the top speed of any of these bikes so that is a non-issue. So for me the EVO wins.
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Re: Monster 696/796/1100/ MPH 796 wins?
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Pissing contest thread...
Started by theoretical gear inch info...
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