Lock up your daughters....

[Shortie]

I agree about informing the parents and urging other parents to talk and educate their children about the issue, but if the parents aren't concerned in the first place how much would it really help.

This is true.

It's a sad statement about our society, that's for sure.

[Sinister]

+1

I was more than a little dumb-founded when I read that the school hadn't done something (like notify parents, or send out a community alert - anything) when they noticed the increase in pregancy tests being administered.

I also agree with the point that has been made a few times here.  Raising kids in today's economic and social climate is not easy.  Most families require both parents to work in order to sustain themselves.  However, having children is a choice, and if you aren't willing to make the time to spend with your kids maybe you should think twice about having them in the first place.  People are selfish, and that doesn't make for a good parent.

The schools are in no way obligated to notify anyone; more likely, the Education Establishment embraces these children's "ability" to make "adult choices" and "explore" their sexuality. 

What I have noticed, more and more, is that children are having children.  By this, I don't mean teenagers having children, but grown up adults who are, as Kyna alluded, too self-absorbed and selfish to make the sacrifices and hard decisions that are necessary to raising children.  The people that I come in contact with who say, "damn, you have kids and your life is over..blah, blah, blah," are prime examples of this.  I could go on.

[Shortie]

What I have noticed, more and more, is that children are having children.  By this, I don't mean teenagers having children, but grown up adults who are, as Kyna alluded, too self-absorbed and selfish to make the sacrifices and hard decisions that are necessary to raising children.  The people that I come in contact with who say, "damn, you have kids and your life is over..blah, blah, blah," are prime examples of this.  I could go on.

So true.

I understand that the educational system is in no way obligated to notify anyone of what goes on in their student clinics. I guess I just see it as more of a moral obligation to make sure that the students under their wing are making healthy choices and are being informed about the consequences of their actions.

But then again, you start talking about morals in the school system and someone will start a riot over people's rights and who's place it is to teach morals, and parents would get pissed about the school trying to steer their kids even though they are probably lacking direction at home and blah blah blah... what a mess.

A lot of these kids just don't realize that a child isn't like a puppy that you can just return to the shelter if it doesn't work out.

[sbrguy]

i dont' see anything wrong with what these kids did.

they followed the traditional mantra being taught today.. which is, think of yourself and only yourself don't care about society or the greater good, bc well i'm an individual everyone else be damned bc i can do what i want.

say that isn't true? bs, you know it is, anytime somone here says that they want to make someone else make a sacrifice or such, they come back with, "its my decision, to heck with you, its a free country i can afford to do what i want, so go back to your own cave and shut up"

so really what you should be saying is that these kids did what they want, and whne somehting goes wrong too bad its their problem not yours.  afterall its the american way.

[silentbob]

i dont' see anything wrong with what these kids did.

they followed the traditional mantra being taught today.. which is, think of yourself and only yourself don't care about society or the greater good, bc well i'm an individual everyone else be damned bc i can do what i want.

say that isn't true? bs, you know it is, anytime somone here says that they want to make someone else make a sacrifice or such, they come back with, "its my decision, to heck with you, its a free country i can afford to do what i want, so go back to your own cave and shut up"

so really what you should be saying is that these kids did what they want, and whne somehting goes wrong too bad its their problem not yours.  afterall its the american way.

True.  The real problem is that we have suspended evolution and perhaps even reversed it.  Normally, people like this would die off from the gene pool but instead the responsible people are shrinking in numbers as we foot the bill.

[sbrguy]

True.  The real problem is that we have suspended evolution and perhaps even reversed it.  Normally, people like this would die off from the gene pool but instead the responsible people are shrinking in numbers as we foot the bill.

i'm glad that you picked up on my bit of sarcasm in my original remark, this is an interesting debate.

no i would say that it is improving evolution here is why.. these people by any means will not be the "leaders of society" bc of lack of good judgement be part of the working or poor class...

those that can skirt the rules and work to get ahead by any means will be the ones with money and power, the ones that will truly have "all the stuff".. now in order to make this all work you have to have the lemmings that work to make society work, these are those folks that will do this.. also since they will not be able to afford better health care and such they will probably die off faster than someone with the means to afford better health care.

think of it, you really don't want a complete society of well educated people with good judgement and such that are all white collar workers, who is going to be the janitor then?  you need a lower class in any society to essentially "do the dirty work that you don't want to do".. its the little secret that nobody really wants to admit bc its "so politically incorrect" to say you want some people to be poor and work for a lower wage.

which gets back to the main point of society's view of "watch out for yourself and only yourself".. think of it this way, politicians say "we need to send soldiers off to war" yet they have no kids of their own in the infantry willign to die, if you want to win something, if you get caught cheating you are villified, if you dont' get caught its called "being cunning and inventive" or "if you aren't cheating you aren't trying".

now can you have charitable things happen? yes but i say its bc people do it for self serving reasons, ie, to feel good about themselves, if they believe in a diety of sorts to make sure that they don't go to a bad place after death again bc thye are "buying" their way to the good place... etc.

we are all greedy and out for ourselves that is why i can understand why people do stupid and selfish things.

[Shortie]

so really what you should be saying is that these kids did what they want, and whne somehting goes wrong too bad its their problem not yours.  afterall its the american way.

Letting people do what they want is all well and good... when the only ones who will be affected are the individuals themselves. How fair is it to these children? The babies are the ones who will really lose out on the deal. If the girls already come from financially (and emotionally) strained families, I highly doubt they will be in the position to effectively care for these kids on their own. Oh... wait... they're going to help each other. And hell, there's always welfare.

If these girls wanted to go whore it up day in and day out, fine with me. That's their deal. But take a make the beast with two backsing pill. Wrap that shit up. This society doesn't need to support any more bastard babies or their emotionally unstable mothers.

Of course, genetics probably play a role in my position towards nurturing the young.

Damn ovaries...

[oregunduc]

I'll step out and say that these kids need to be removed from the gene pool, what a bunch of dipshits! 

Between working with the public in both emergency situations with the fire department and a retail setting as well, I have come to the conclusion that a person can be smart but people when put together in as a group they are about as smart as a box of rocks

Just gives me all the more reason to hate people...

 

[Count Desmo]

Most families require both parents to work in order to sustain themselves. 

Require?  I don't think so.  There is no doubt that some families need both parents working just to get by, but not most.  Most "need" that Suburban, and Starbucks every day, and the big flat screen TV, and that boat, and motorcycle, and ATVs, and to go out to eat every other night...blah blah blah.  I don't let people off the hook that easy.  My wife stays home with our kids, and we made some tough decisions in the beginning to make it happen.  Most people are too selfish to make hard choices, so they justify it in many different ways.

[Kyna]

I wonder about the soon-to-be-fathers in this situation.  The article mentions that one of the father's is a 24yo homeless man, which I guess implies that the others are high school boys.  I feel a bit bad for those boys.  Don't get me wrong, I realize they aren't blameless.  They chose to have unprotected sex.  Birth control isn't entirely the woman's job, but damn.  Those guys are forever going to be connect to these idiotic girls.  They didn't enter into a pact to all be dads together and I would predict they weren't all high-5ing when they got the news.

It's hard for me to understand why some girls feel that having a baby will give them someone who will love them unconditionally.  I was a teenage girl once upon a time and did some completely irrational things (thankfully I've out grown this trait ) but never did I think that having a baby would help my life at that age.

[Shortie]

Teenage boys use their heads, but not the rational ones...

It's hard for me to understand why some girls feel that having a baby will give them someone who will love them unconditionally.  I was a teenage girl once upon a time and did some completely irrational things (thankfully I've out grown this trait ) but never did I think that having a baby would help my life at that age.

+1

[oregunduc]

Teenage boys use their heads, but not the rational ones...

Only teenage boys think with that head??? I know I have done some pretty dumb shit for sex...

[Kyna]

Require?  I don't think so.  There is no doubt that some families need both parents working just to get by, but not most. 

I wasn't trying to let people off the hook, honest!  Require may have been too strong a word.  I was just acknolweding that children are expensive.  I only hope to be in a position where the man I marry can stay home with our kids.  But living in a decent neighborhood where your kids can play outside and not have to worry about cars etc, that's not cheap.  Saving up so your kid can go to college and NOT be in debt for the rest of their life, having something to retire...life is expensive and in my opinion those are not frivilous things to be spending money on.  I don't see that as being a selfish reason to have both parents working and IMO those are hard things to do on a single income.

[Shortie]

Only teenage boys think with that head??? I know I have done some pretty dumb shit for sex...

I was trying to give guys a little bit of credit 

Horny girls do dumb shit too. Ask me how I know.

[oregunduc]

I was trying to give guys a little bit of credit 

That right there is the first mistake 

Horny girls do dumb shit too. Ask me how I know.

Do tell