Going from 750 to 900?

[ZachDDill]

I currently own a '99 M750 and find the power to be slightly lacking, I have always been curious if it was possible how much it would cost to swap the block with a 900. Any ideas on general prices? I could be getting in way over my head.

[zooom]

how long have you been riding and what kind of riding do you do?...

[He Man]

theres not enough difference to warrant the cost unless you had the time and just so happen to have a 900 block sitting in the corner.

[ZachDDill]

how long have you been riding and what kind of riding do you do?...

around 2 years and I'm a everyday rider.

[zooom]

I'll reiterate what I said in another thread...get some track time at an accredited school on your 750 and I bet you find out is isn't about how much you have, but how you use it....that paired with some suspension work , and I bet your 750 will have more than enough grunt for you...

[muskrat]

Track time helps but if he's a daily rider he may have outgrown the 750 IMO.   
I've had both, currently have the 900 and my choice would have been to start with the 900.   Subjective opinion on my part but something just feels better about the 900.  I personally don't think you are stepping far away like jumping directly onto a 1098, there's an insane difference there for sure. 

[brad black]

750 are dogs, for several reasons.  but a 900 could possibly be bought with better suspension, etc, at a better upgrade cost difference.

[ZachDDill]

Track time helps but if he's a daily rider he may have outgrown the 750 IMO.   
I've had both, currently have the 900 and my choice would have been to start with the 900.   Subjective opinion on my part but something just feels better about the 900.  I personally don't think you are stepping far away like jumping directly onto a 1098, there's an insane difference there for sure. 

I'd like to think I'm a fairly experienced rider for my age, my Duc is my only mode of transportation so I do think its very possible that IV out grown the 750.

[ducatigirl100]

I've started motorcycling whit a 125c Honda cbr .....  so cool.... lol      now I have a 900 

I ride it for 2 years ( my little baby CBR...)... after getting advice from instructors...putting my kneedown.. loosing the rear or the front in corner's...    So in my point of view if your not to this point whit your 750...  you didn't out grown  it            I'm not saying take your bike and go put your kneedown!! You will crash!

I my point a view a course whit an specialised instructor to enhance technique is always the way to go to get the better of your bike....( ego as no place in motorcycling ..Even Rossi or Pedrosa take advice...)    and it cost a lot less than getting  900cc or converting yours to a 900
 

[The Bearded Duc]

As far as HP goes, there's really not a lot of difference between a slightly modded 750 and a stock S2R 1K. Now, the S2R will handle much better and tend to cruise in a lower rmp. If it were me, I would spend the money on a newer bike. I love my S2R and with some minor mods, it's a great bike. No superbike, but enough power to get most people in way over their heads. Now if you never want to feel like you've outgrown the bike, then find a S4R.

That's just crazy talk, just based on numbers the S2R 1K has over 30 HP more than the 750!!

I have a 750 and an S2R 800, based on their numbers they're a lot closer in HP than the previous but they feel completely different.

My opinion, Zach, if you think you're ready for a "bigger" bike than go for it. It is possible to do the swap but it will end up costing almost as much as a decent used 900 unless you can do all of the work yourself.

[He Man]

that dyno is reading very high if you have a 750 putting out 79hp. should be around 55-60 depending on dyno and mods.

[koko64]

Sell the 750 and get a 900. Thats a moderate jump.
+1 to more torque and better suspension. You will get a significant increase in usable grunt from a carbed 900. A great street engine.

Check out Brad's bikeboy site to see what a modified 750 and 900 can produce on a more conservative dyno. The most I have seen from a carbed 900 with jet kit, open air box and pipes is about 76-77 hp and that was the previous generation dynojet dyno.

Brad got good power out of a 750 with hi comp pistons, 900 cams, etc. He has an article on his site about it that is very interesting.

Others may be able to comment further.

[Howie]

I beg to differ, my 00' 750 Dyno'ed at 79 HP that was with a jet kit and after market exhaust. A stock S2R 1K is said to have 80hp not really a big difference. I know this, I've owned both. Now the new 1200's are stated to have 100hp, rear wheel is always less. I believe that dynos measure at the wheel.

Are you saying Ducati rated an engine at 62 HP at the crank when it actually produces 79 at the rear wheel?

[zooom]

I've started motorcycling whit a 125c Honda cbr .....  so cool.... lol      now I have a 900 

I ride it for 2 years ( my little baby CBR...)... after getting advice from instructors...putting my kneedown.. loosing the rear or the front in corner's...    So in my point of view if your not to this point whit your 750...  you didn't out grown  it            I'm not saying take your bike and go put your kneedown!! You will crash!

I my point a view a course whit an specialised instructor to enhance technique is always the way to go to get the better of your bike....( ego as no place in motorcycling ..Even Rossi or Pedrosa take advice...)    and it cost a lot less than getting  900cc or converting yours to a 900
 

I am kind of in the boat with her on this...regardless of whether you ride everyday or not...on the street, I am wondering how you might outgrow a 750 Monster unless you are spending time breaking laws and exceeding triple digits everywhere you can...if you slab ride alot, then maybe you are just looking at the wrong kind of bike....kinda like trying to use a crescent wrench instead of a socket or box end wrench....if it is because of cruising in 5th gear, and you want a 6th gear for overdrive cruising, that makes sense...but the most common problem when it comes to the speed of a bike still remains to be the adjustability and tuneability of the screw between the ears of your head in a majority of cases...not saying this in any other meaning except as an outsider trying to understand how or why you think you might have outgrown the 750...

[ZachDDill]

I am kind of in the boat with her on this...regardless of whether you ride everyday or not...on the street, I am wondering how you might outgrow a 750 Monster unless you are spending time breaking laws and exceeding triple digits everywhere you can...if you slab ride alot, then maybe you are just looking at the wrong kind of bike....kinda like trying to use a crescent wrench instead of a socket or box end wrench....if it is because of cruising in 5th gear, and you want a 6th gear for overdrive cruising, that makes sense...but the most common problem when it comes to the speed of a bike still remains to be the adjustability and tuneability of the screw between the ears of your head in a majority of cases...not saying this in any other meaning except as an outsider trying to understand how or why you think you might have outgrown the 750...

The 750 isn't fast enough of the line for me anymore, and she tops out at about 130. Which is plenty fast but I would like to have the ability to go faster, and I can go full throttle in 2nd and the front tire stays firm on the ground, not that I want to do wheelies but It just doesn't feel fast enough anymore.