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ducpainter

#15
July 23, 2008, 07:25:49 PM
Quote from: akmnstr on July 23, 2008, 05:54:54 PM
I'm thinking of upgrading my older carb engine (98 bike) with a newer FI engine.  Will I have any problems matching my current tank to the newer 1000cc DS engine? 
You will need to swap tanks and the seat to a 2000 or newer combination.

I'd recommend steel over plastic due to capacity.
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akmnstr

#16
July 24, 2008, 08:39:51 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 23, 2008, 07:25:49 PM
You will need to swap tanks and the seat to a 2000 or newer combination.

I'd recommend steel over plastic due to capacity.

Thanks, but what are the problems with the old tank?  Are there Clearance issues?  One fuel line coming out of the carb tank two out of the FI tank, is that the issue?  I'm just wondering if I can overcome the problems with ingenuity, a welder, and a hammer [laugh].   
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ducpainter

#17
July 24, 2008, 09:33:34 AM
Quote from: akmnstr on July 24, 2008, 08:39:51 AM
Thanks, but what are the problems with the old tank?  Are there Clearance issues?  One fuel line coming out of the carb tank two out of the FI tank, is that the issue?  I'm just wondering if I can overcome the problems with ingenuity, a welder, and a hammer [laugh].   
The Ducs use an internal fuel pump rated at ,I think, about 80psi and a pressure regulator on the TB.

You can use your old tank/seat if you use an external pump and can fabricate a return into the tank....and fit a filter capable of handling the pressure...and a pickup screen to protect the pump from debris....

Which is easier?   ;D
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akmnstr

#18
July 24, 2008, 11:20:03 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 24, 2008, 09:33:34 AM
The Ducs use an internal fuel pump rated at ,I think, about 80psi and a pressure regulator on the TB.

You can use your old tank/seat if you use an external pump and can fabricate a return into the tank....and fit a filter capable of handling the pressure...and a pickup screen to protect the pump from debris....

Which is easier?   ;D

Thanks Ducpainter.  This is sounding like an expensive hassle.  Another tank plus chucking my Corbin seat.  My 98 monster has an external fuel pump so it may not be a big problem to replace it with a pump that meets the specs, but fabricating a return.  Oh well, it was an idea. 
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Spider

#19
August 20, 2008, 12:17:58 AM Last Edit: August 22, 2008, 07:53:29 PM by Spider
Quote from: Spider on July 17, 2008, 05:27:13 AM
well, they are the same diameter, same 5 bolt patterm...so two out of three ain't bed!

then we just need the little leg that screws into the shelf of the tank to be the same...of and the locking mechanism too...

aaaghhhh...It'll never work!

It frickin works! a fuel cap off a 1098 goes in....I now have a hybrid - part Monster, part 1098....sure it's a small part but still.

actually the 1098 (new) cap was made with just standard alloy whilst the monster from 2003 had a heap of brass fittings in there! I'd previously heard/read about Ducati changing/degrading bolt quality in 04.

vampireduc

#20
August 22, 2008, 06:34:48 PM
spider, you have pictures of this masterpiece?  I have an SS that told me to get her a new cap.
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Spider

#21
August 22, 2008, 07:52:35 PM Last Edit: July 31, 2009, 12:42:57 AM by Spider
Quote from: vampireduc on August 22, 2008, 06:34:48 PM
spider, you have pictures of this masterpiece?  I have an SS that told me to get her a new cap.

here's the 'evolution' of my very stock 1000s - there is a post in there regarding the cap - for you to use (use big sheet of white paper and tweezers when doing the cylinder swap)

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1168.0

herm

#22
August 22, 2008, 08:54:39 PM
looks a lot like the stock fuel cap on my bike.....

FWIW........why not look into the aftermarket stuff available.
there are some really bling fuel caps out there
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scooby

#23
September 11, 2008, 06:53:15 AM
Quote from: herm on August 22, 2008, 08:54:39 PM
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FWIW........why not look into the aftermarket stuff available.
there are some really bling fuel caps out there

My Oberon cap from Motowheels...

What would ScoobyDoo?

bucky

#24
September 19, 2008, 08:09:15 PM
Ok even after reading this great and informative thread I am not sure if my tank bike combo I am thinking of doing will work.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

So will a 2000 M900 Dark tank (not that the color matters) work on a 2001 MS4?  I am trying to find out before I try and put my old dented M900 tank on the S4, so that I can paint the current S4 tank and not miss out on any riding!!!!

Thanks for any help.

ducpainter

#25
September 20, 2008, 04:18:43 AM
Quote from: bucky on September 19, 2008, 08:09:15 PM
Ok even after reading this great and informative thread I am not sure if my tank bike combo I am thinking of doing will work.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

So will a 2000 M900 Dark tank (not that the color matters) work on a 2001 MS4?  I am trying to find out before I try and put my old dented M900 tank on the S4, so that I can paint the current S4 tank and not miss out on any riding!!!!

Thanks for any help.
The earlier 2V tanks won't work on the S4.

Interference between the tank and either the battery or the vertical head.
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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bucky

#26
September 20, 2008, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on September 20, 2008, 04:18:43 AM
The earlier 2V tanks won't work on the S4.

Interference between the tank and either the battery or the vertical head.

Crud, that shoots that idea.... DucPainter, thanks for the help!!!

ducpainter

#27
September 21, 2008, 05:08:22 AM
Quote from: bucky on September 20, 2008, 08:15:09 PM
Crud, that shoots that idea.... DucPainter, thanks for the help!!!
If you can get an '03 or newer steel tank that will work.
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
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    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


bucky

#28
September 22, 2008, 12:46:52 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on September 21, 2008, 05:08:22 AM
If you can get an '03 or newer steel tank that will work.

Now there is a thought!!  Cool thanks for the idea, after seeing how good Scooby's looks as a dark though I have some thinking to do again.  Thanks again for the help Scooby, and DucPainter.

Cheers from Colorado!

erik822

#29
September 25, 2008, 09:43:53 AM
Anyone know what I'd need to do to get an '06 S2R plastic tank to fit on a '02 900 frame?

New brackets?
Fuel pump?

Will it even fit?


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