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POLL: Would you buy an aluminum tank...?

Started by ducatiz, January 27, 2012, 06:28:55 AM

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stopintime

#75
February 03, 2012, 09:01:57 AM
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oh yesss  [drool] another couple of hundred dollars just for that (stock cap though)
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

ducatiz

#76
February 03, 2012, 11:52:56 AM
Get me one of those tanks and I'll copy it  [thumbsup]
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Travman

#77
February 03, 2012, 12:10:05 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on February 03, 2012, 11:52:56 AM
Get me one of those tanks and I'll copy it  [thumbsup]
I figured we would simply mark up the stock one with a sharpie before it ships out to the fabricator.  ;)

ducatiz

#78
February 03, 2012, 12:12:39 PM
Not as easy as that, it's far more tricky.  Esp with the stock fuel pump setup.
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Novelo

#79
February 03, 2012, 01:03:37 PM
I know I'm not contributing here but this made me laugh so hard lol
Quote from: ducatiz on January 27, 2012, 08:16:08 AM
Thanks for reading my original post carefully...  [thumbsup]

ducatiz

#80
February 03, 2012, 01:28:04 PM
If anyone is curious..

A 1 inch cube of 4130 steel alloy weighs 0.282 lbs.

A 1 inch cube of 5052 Aluminum alloy weighs 0.097 lbs


Assuming the same wall thickness, the tank would weight a LOT less, however, I am sure they have to make it thicker by at least 50-75% for durability.  Even if they doubles the thickness (and therefore the weight) it would still come in at only 2/3rd the weight of the steel.
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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

The Bearded Duc

#81
February 03, 2012, 01:43:34 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on February 03, 2012, 01:28:04 PM
If anyone is curious..

A 1 inch cube of 4130 steel alloy weighs 0.282 lbs.

A 1 inch cube of 5052 Aluminum alloy weighs 0.097 lbs


Assuming the same wall thickness, the tank would weight a LOT less, however, I am sure they have to make it thicker by at least 50-75% for durability.  Even if they doubles the thickness (and therefore the weight) it would still come in at only 2/3rd the weight of the steel.

This is sounding better and better the further along it gets!   [Dolph]
2001 M750 - Sold
2006 S2R 800 - She's just darling

scduc

#82
February 04, 2012, 06:13:52 AM
What kind of time frame are you looking at to get prototypes done?
08' S2R 1K   That was close  damn near lost a $400 hand cart.

TAftonomos

#83
February 04, 2012, 09:37:11 AM
This makes keeping the s4r that much EASIER :D   [thumbsup]

ducatiz

#84
February 04, 2012, 01:08:24 PM
Thanks to BIll in OKC, I have an S4RS tank to work with.

I'll be fitting it to an S4 and S4r to check clearances, unless anyone has something to add -- have you put an S4RS tank onto one of those?

If all fits, I'll have a tank that fits all the 4v monsters.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

The Bearded Duc

#85
February 04, 2012, 01:12:54 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on February 04, 2012, 01:08:24 PM
Thanks to BIll in OKC, I have an S4RS tank to work with.

I'll be fitting it to an S4 and S4r to check clearances, unless anyone has something to add -- have you put an S4RS tank onto one of those?

If all fits, I'll have a tank that fits all the 4v monsters.


This will make a lot of people happy if it works!  [thumbsup]
2001 M750 - Sold
2006 S2R 800 - She's just darling

DarkMonster620

#86
February 04, 2012, 03:11:19 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on February 04, 2012, 01:08:24 PM
Thanks to BIll in OKC, I have an S4RS tank to work with.

I'll be fitting it to an S4 and S4r to check clearances, unless anyone has something to add -- have you put an S4RS tank onto one of those?

If all fits, I'll have a tank that fits all the 4v monsters.

ducatiz,

but, will the 2V pump/mounting flange be "re-usable" or will the desing go the 4V way?
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
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ducatiz

#87
February 04, 2012, 03:50:07 PM
Quote from: Panamanian Monster on February 04, 2012, 03:11:19 PM
ducatiz,

but, will the 2V pump/mounting flange be "re-usable" or will the desing go the 4V way?

the 2v design will use the S2R style flange.   For S2r bikes, you'll just reuse the same pump setup.

For other bikes, there will be a flange offered which either mounts the internal fuel pump (for FI models) or spigots for the external (carbed) models.

i'm checking clearance tomorrow for a carbed bike with the S2R tank.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

DarkMonster620

#88
February 04, 2012, 03:51:16 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on February 04, 2012, 03:50:07 PM
the 2v design will use the S2R style flange.   For S2r bikes, you'll just reuse the same pump setup.

For other bikes, there will be a flange offered which either mounts the internal fuel pump (for FI models) or spigots for the external (carbed) models.

i'm checking clearance tomorrow for a carbed bike with the S2R tank.

so it is different that as for the M620?
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

ducatiz

#89
February 04, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: Panamanian Monster on February 04, 2012, 03:51:16 PM
so it is different that as for the M620?

M620 is a efi bike.  you'll be able to re-use your pump, but you'll put it in from the bottom instead of the top.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.
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