Midpipes - Spark, Marving or others - pros and cons? S2R800 '07

Started by stopintime, June 23, 2008, 04:43:15 PM

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stopintime

Thinking of opening it up. I have the Termi slip ons, ECU and open air box. My dealer told me they normally adjust after this mod. Why/what?

Quality, looks, sound, fit - any experiences?
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

Capt baz

i have the spareshack II (marving) mid pipe on my '05 s2r. fitment & appearance are perfect. eliminates the beehive & if you have some form of slip-on or cored can, as i do, it is quite loud. adjustments should be made after all has been done to the air intake & exhaust, as this is "the air pump". i have the open air box, cored stock cans & a pc III with custom map.   spark, also get great reviews. i don't know how compatable they are with all slip=ons.  [moto]
"It will not go in deepr than it is long"

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aa4111

I have the spark full system. Spark midpipes should be compatible with any slip ons that fit onto the stock exhaust because they are supposed to have the same exits. One thing to note if you go this route is to make sure to tell chris at desmoworld if you have an o2 sensor or not. I believe he was under the impression that 06 S2R 800's had no o2 sensor but 07 S2R 800's did, so I recieved an o2 sensor'd pipe. No big deal, I just plugged the bung. It's a little odd I think some euro 07 S2R 800's did have the o2 sensor so that is where the confusion comes in. Anyways my pipe is great and is a great deal lighter and sexier than that huge udder. Would buy again  [thumbsup]

hay13

I have the same bike ('07 S2R800).   I went less aggressive on upgrading the exhaust so I kept the stock cans and replaced the cat with the Marving headpipe.  Sounds a bit better but I don't notice a performance upgrade or decrease and really didn't expect any.  I did ceramic coat the Marving headpipe, S-pipes and heel guards. I like the way it turned out.  Side note: new mirrors on order.  [thumbsup]

'07 S2R 800

Heath

I have had Zards and my current set up, Ducati Performance mid pipe and Termignoni race slip ons.

I like the Ducati Performance midpipe.  It doesn't reuse any of the stock exhaust like a lot of other mid pipes do.
Ducati part number 979A00108

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2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]

RB

Quote from: Heath on June 24, 2008, 05:58:11 AM
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I like the Ducati Performance midpipe.  It doesn't reuse any of the stock exhaust like a lot of other mid pipes do.
Ducati part number 979A00108
Do you need to remove that midpipe to do a proper oil change? If so, i would say that is a 'con'. I like that pipes' esthetics.

I have the Spark midpipe on my '06 S2R. I do not have an O2 sensor, but my pipe (as i thought all of them did) came with the O2 bung, which is useful/necessary for proper tuning.
Spark pipe fits well and was an easy install. At the time i believe it was the cheapest midpipe...Pro
However, i think this pipe hangs too low, away from the engine a good few inches, and doesn't look as nice as some other pipes...Con.
i will try to upload a pic

hillbillypolack

I have the Spark midpipe, and IMHO, it's much better looking than the longer DP unit.  The DP pipe makes the lower engine look very long, which I didn't lilke.

Don't be misled by the pics on desmoworld of their pipe, though.  They now sell the Spark midpipe with a "satin" finish, not the high polished finish you see online.  This isn't a big deal for some, just FYI.  If you're picky, they have tooling marks over most of the pipe.

As far as I believe, the DP may have a bigger diameter, the Spark is 43mm.  Both will fit up to any double exhaust slip-one you choose to complete your system.

doulos

Spark midpipe here also. :)  It fit up perfect.  It has a nice satin finish.  Still have stock cans (but looking for Spark) no tuning changes needed.  Also, out of the way when doing oil changes.
Best of all it sounds good too.  ;D

stopintime

Quote from: Heath on June 24, 2008, 05:58:11 AM
I have had Zards and my current set up, Ducati Performance mid pipe and Termignoni race slip ons.

I like the Ducati Performance midpipe.  It doesn't reuse any of the stock exhaust like a lot of other mid pipes do.
Ducati part number 979A00108



I love those cans and I'm pissed I didn't know about them when I purchased my bike  [thumbsup]

Spark is moving fast towards the top of the list. It is specific for the '07 - maybe because of the O2 sensor or some other changes I didn't know about. Price is half that of the DP pipes and from what you guys say - more or less the same functionality. Thanks for helping out [thumbsup]
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

Heath

Quote from: RB on June 24, 2008, 06:48:05 AM
Do you need to remove that midpipe to do a proper oil change? If so, i would say that is a 'con'. I like that pipes' esthetics.
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I haven't done an oil change yet. (kind of waiting for the black amsoil filter)  I know you can get the filter off fine.  I believe another member said it is possible to remove the mesh screen to.  The one you are supposed to clean every other oil change.  I'll find out soon enough.


Also there is a spot for the O2 sensor on the front pipe.  Unfortunately there is no spot to hook up on the rear pipe.  My shop had to have one added so they could do my custom advance map for my Power Commander III.

2007 Ducati Monster S4RT
2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]

COWBOY

Quote from: stopintime on June 24, 2008, 10:30:42 AM
I love those cans and I'm pissed I didn't know about them when I purchased my bike  [thumbsup]

Spark is moving fast towards the top of the list. It is specific for the '07 - maybe because of the O2 sensor or some other changes I didn't know about. Price is half that of the DP pipes and from what you guys say - more or less the same functionality. Thanks for helping out [thumbsup]

The spark pipe used to be the no brainer recommendation up until the past year.  In the past year 1. the DP no longer covers the oil filter and 2 dropped in price AND the spark pipe started showing up with sloppy welds etc.  Search TOB and some of these will come up. 

Chris has always been good to me so I'm not bashing just an FYI.

Cheers

P.S.  I like both and saw it as a win-win.  I ended up with the DP over the Spark because due to the conversion rate it was $150 USD cheaper than the Spark.  It fits perfectly and improved performance and sound.  It DID require the DP ECU to be adjusted.

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stopintime

Quote from: COWBOY on June 24, 2008, 01:48:33 PM
The spark pipe used to be the no brainer recommendation up until the past year.  In the past year 1. the DP no longer covers the oil filter and 2 dropped in price AND the spark pipe started showing up with sloppy welds etc.  Search TOB and some of these will come up. 

Chris has always been good to me so I'm not bashing just an FYI.

Cheers

P.S.  I like both and saw it as a win-win.  I ended up with the DP over the Spark because due to the conversion rate it was $150 USD cheaper than the Spark.  It fits perfectly and improved performance and sound.  It DID require the DP ECU to be adjusted.

Spark from MonsterParts paid, shipped + local VAT 25% comes to about $500. My dealer wants $940 for the DP pipes. Now, THAT'S a no brainer IMO.
I will close my eyes for possible "sloppy welds etc" and hope for the best.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

stopintime

Quote from: hay13 on June 23, 2008, 08:55:34 PM
I have the same bike ('07 S2R800).   I went less aggressive on upgrading the exhaust so I kept the stock cans and replaced the cat with the Marving headpipe.  Sounds a bit better but I don't notice a performance upgrade or decrease and really didn't expect any.  I did ceramic coat the Marving headpipe, S-pipes and heel guards. I like the way it turned out.  Side note: new mirrors on order.  [thumbsup]



I see your mods are coming along quite nicely  [thumbsup] If you're not able to get new mirrors by autumn I'm sure there is some foundation that will grant you another set. Maybe Disney has something to make up for the emotional damage their inspiration has brought upon the whole Monster community ???
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

booger

Quat-D also makes one, I have it on my '06 S2R800. Uses the stock header pipes. Looks right, I had mine ceramic coated black. Has a removeable baffle at the crossover junction, and an O2 bung. Simple to install, fits perfectly. At the time I bought it from Motowheels, it was the cheapest. With cored stock cans it's quite loud, I'm getting some uncored stock cans to bring down the noise a bit.
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2006 S2R1000 - sold
2008 HM1100S - sold
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2007 S4RT
2007 Vespa LX50 aka "Slowey"
2008 BMW R1200 GSA

stopintime

Quote from: bergdoerfer on June 24, 2008, 04:14:49 PM
I'm getting some uncored stock cans to bring down the noise a bit.

[evil] No no no no, please no  ;)
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it