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Author Topic: 2013 Silly Season?...maybe spoilers  (Read 87853 times)
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« Reply #285 on: July 12, 2012, 01:48:19 PM »

Dorna changing the rules to suit the situation makes it even less credible.

I agree that it sure looks that way...but the rookie rule was dumb. Teams should be able to hire whoever they want to ride their bikes.

I agree Marquez is a douche...a fast douche, but a douche nonetheless. It could get interesting if he tries to punt some of the GP riders like he's done in Moto2.  coffee
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« Reply #286 on: July 12, 2012, 01:55:11 PM »

I agree that it sure looks that way...but the rookie rule was dumb. Teams should be able to hire whoever they want to ride their bikes.

I agree Marquez is a douche...a fast douche, but a douche nonetheless. It could get interesting if he tries to punt some of the GP riders like he's done in Moto2.  coffee
...and they should be able to buy tires from whomever they want too.

The premise of cost cutting is laughable. The rules are what they are to try and level the field to promote more exciting racing.

It is no longer pure prototype racing, and the way Dorna is running things it isn't effective in making the racing any better.

I'd like to see Colin get his hands on him.  Grin
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« Reply #287 on: July 12, 2012, 02:03:17 PM »

I'm very, very DISAPPOINTED!!  bang head

MotoGP just got a lot less interesting for me.

why is this so disappointing - no rookie rule or 2 spaniards?  i don't get it.
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« Reply #288 on: July 12, 2012, 03:07:38 PM »


It is no longer pure prototype racing...


ok, but what is?
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« Reply #289 on: July 12, 2012, 03:53:35 PM »

why is this so disappointing - no rookie rule or 2 spaniards?  i don't get it.


Two Spaniards (one they had to bend the rules for), on a Spanish team's bike in a Spanish owned and run series riding an utterly dominating bike. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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« Reply #290 on: July 12, 2012, 04:31:48 PM »

Two Spaniards (one they had to bend the rules for), on a Spanish team's bike in a Spanish owned and run series riding an utterly dominating bike. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

ah, gotcha.

btw - if a win gets you a tick in the dominated category, so far this year honda and yamaha are tied.
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« Reply #291 on: July 12, 2012, 05:18:02 PM »

ok, but what is?

exactly...

Dorna took over and killed it.

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« Reply #292 on: July 12, 2012, 09:46:12 PM »

If you really want motogp to remain interesting, then Marquez to the factory Honda is the way to go.  We need the best young talent on the best bikes so Lorenzo doesn't disappear into the twilight every other race.  I personally like Pedrosa, but we'll see if he stays healthy this whole year if he can truly put up the challenge needed to pressure Lorenzo.  There is no other option after this season unless Audi's money dump into Ducati and Rossi accelerates that bike's development over the next 9 months.  Lorenzo was stupid fast out of the gate, but too reckless to contend.  I think Marquez will be the same animal. 

Btw it looks like Rossi is leaning towards keeping his seat ( only option? ) at Ducati.
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« Reply #293 on: July 12, 2012, 10:59:31 PM »

Lorenzo, Simoncelli, Marques. Same rider different year. All reckless and hungry. Need to be that way if your ever going to make it to GP.
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« Reply #294 on: July 13, 2012, 08:57:46 AM »

george's first year in GP: 1 win, 6 podiums, 4 poles, finished 4th.  that's contending.
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« Reply #295 on: July 13, 2012, 09:46:08 AM »

george's first year in GP: 1 win, 6 podiums, 4 poles, finished 4th.  that's contending.

how many crashes/highsides?
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« Reply #296 on: July 13, 2012, 10:47:40 AM »

how many crashes/highsides?

total or just in races?  Grin
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« Reply #297 on: July 13, 2012, 12:35:47 PM »

how many crashes/highsides?

enough to finish 4th.  =)
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« Reply #298 on: July 13, 2012, 07:08:29 PM »

Pedrosa is going to be the longest tenured rider at the *same* factory to never win a championship -- 8 9 years by the end of his latest contact.  I don't know my GP history, but that's gotta be some kinda record for modern GP racing.  They passed over Rossi for HIM??
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« Reply #299 on: July 13, 2012, 08:56:33 PM »

Let's put things in perspective a bit...

http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2012/GER/MotoGP/table5.pdf?v1_69d7d325

While I respect the hell out of some of those guys, until they are dancing with the premier class numbers the top 3 there have posted up, I am not worried about Rossi's legacy as the GOAT being tampered with.

And while I won't argue that there are riders who have years that can't be touched, Rossi has had a career that can't be touched. Next year will bring changes...as in titanic scale changes. Audi wanted 2 things out of the merger.
1. The carbon credits for production that Ducati will allow them to have to keep on producing things like the Veyron and the R8...
2. And to broaden the scope of their competitiveness with BMW.

I don't think they are going to continue to let BMW trounce them in WSBK and keep close to them respectively in MotoGP. Audi will throw resources at the problems that Ducati couldn't afford to alone.
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