Loose parts, shouldn't be loose and certainly not where I found them

[Speeddog]

That's not good at all. 

[stopintime]

I didn't notice any noise, but the gear holder arm had taken a beating so it didn't quite do it's job holding the gears steady (which wasn't a problem really) It has been repaired and functions well.

The small alu piece was a cast ridge - securing the gear holder spring. The spring still has a little alu to hold on to. I will look into if it can be secured better.

It's a cell phone picture, but you can see some of the damage - bolt of gear holder arm and some scratches on the case.

Probably just a matter of time until more of the springs would have come loose and then it might have been much worse.

[He Man]

sorry to hear, is may a bad month for motor failures?

[stopintime]

sorry to hear, is may a bad month for motor failures?

As bad as any other non-winter month 

[Raux]

is it going to be ready for the trip?

[Speeddog]

Check the area I've circled, it's a pocket to catch oil for the trans output shaft bearing.

You don't want any of the shrapnel in that bearing.

[stopintime]

is it going to be ready for the trip?

It's ready - my dealer had a new basket in stock (much to our surprise).

Speeddog: visual check and air pressure. The damage on the edge of that pocket is just cosmetic. We found very few pieces on the oil plug magnet, in the mesh filter and when poking around with a magnet on a stick thingy.

There is no way to be 100% sure and discovery of any other damage would take a full disassembly, which I hope to delay another couple of years. It's a shame Kämna didn't offer a dry conversion last year - I think I would have said yes - would already have paid for itself.... Besides, it would ruin my Alps + WDW trip, most of the season and be expensive. It has to be opened again later this summer to put in new clutch plates (didn't have those in stock, but my current stack is 52 mm against recommended minimum 50 mm) and the we'll have a better idea how it has held up. Of course, closing my eyes and hoping for the best could be even more expensive, but I don't hate the odds.
The careful rides since yesterday have been smooth and without new noises or vibrations.

Wish me luck

[Raux]

Getting close, I know you sent the route, but are you riding solo?

[suzyj]

stopintime, that motor looks like a total writeoff.  Time to upgrade to a 1K, I reckon.

I'll take the broken motor off you, if you like.  It'd be a good source of valves for my motor (and 900 cams, HC pistons, 800 crank...)

No need for you to pay me to take it off your hands.  I'm generous like that.

[stopintime]

You pay shipping?





Actually I think that if something serious happened, I would go for an 1183(?) big bore 1000/1100 and do it all over.
That could be close to 130 bhp at the wheel and more torque than I can spell...

[brad black]

we had an early s2r800 that did it twice.

[stopintime]

we had an early s2r800 that did it twice.

So, you're saying a dry conversion is absolutely required - don't you?

I have to do it, don't I?

No way around it, is there?

[Raux]

I'll let you know how it goes for the dry conversion

[stopintime]

Are the earlier non-APTC wet clutches without the inside-gear-mounted springs?

If these baskets are interchangeable - maybe the announced EVR small case wet slipper will be a solution....

[BK_856er]

My '07 APTC clutch doesn't have springs in the basket/gear assembly or in the small primary gear.

BK