First post...buying a monster

Started by jh1328, June 25, 2012, 07:12:50 PM

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jh1328

Hey forum,
I'm selling my r6 and buying a monster, as of right now. For those of you who have had sport bikes and have gone to a 798 or 1100, how is the transition for speed? Will I be bored with the raw power or is it comparable?

xsephirot

it's not about the straights. it's all about the curves.

jh1328

True, and I agree that it's about the fun of cornering but one of the things I adore about my r6 is the rocket power out of a corner to the straight. I just don't want to get on the throttle and go "I'm not really satisfied with the power".

supperduc

Quote from: jh1328 on June 25, 2012, 07:58:07 PM
True, and I agree that it's about the fun of cornering but one of the things I adore about my r6 is the rocket power out of a corner to the straight. I just don't want to get on the throttle and go "I'm not really satisfied with the power".

Rocket power? Let see: 599 cc, about 120 HP @ 14500 RPM, and a whopping 48.5 ft.lbs of torque. Nope, not really rocket power.

Get the 1100. Welcome to the duc family.
07 S4Rs - Commuter
06 749s - Garage Queen

muskrat

Spring for a liquid cooled Monster and you'll love rocketing out of corners.  As stated above, the turns will help you fall in love with these babies.  FYI, if you can buy something with a steel tank. 
Can we thin the gene pool? 

2015 MTS 1200
09 Electra Glide

xcaptainxbloodx

apples to oranges. the r6 makes its power in very different way and has a totally different riding stance.

you wont have the top end pull but the absurd increase in the bottem end torque will be addictive. sitting upright with no wind protection will be either thrilling or totally ruin the experience for you.

personally I think the r6 is a fantastic track/race bike but would never give up my monster for one.  its a totally subjective thing, you need a test ride.

xcaptainxbloodx

Quote from: supperduc on June 25, 2012, 08:08:49 PM
Rocket power? Let see: 599 cc, about 120 HP @ 14500 RPM, and a whopping 48.5 ft.lbs of torque. Nope, not really rocket power.

Get the 1100. Welcome to the duc family.


1100 evo gets 100hp ~75ftlbs@6krpm, given its 500cc advantage thats not a whole hell of a lot to write home about

supperduc

I would recommend an s4r(s) but he's only looking at 769 and 1100.
07 S4Rs - Commuter
06 749s - Garage Queen

jh1328

Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on June 25, 2012, 08:15:59 PM
1100 evo gets 100hp ~75ftlbs@6krpm, given its 500cc advantage thats not a whole hell of a lot to write home about

That's kind of what I was referring to...If i spring for an 1100 evo, I want to know that I'll still being going "wow" out of the
acceleration. However, from what I'm reading from monster owners, the cornering and handling of these bikes trumps the
raw speed of a track bike.

wannabfast

shear low end torque is the main thing
11' M796, SC project GP slip-ons, 1100DS cams, BMC air filter with modified airbox cover, asv levers, 14t front sprocket

RC Fan

What is your bike history?  How many bikes have you tried besides the R6?  As others have said, a test ride of the bikes in question is key.
Cathy

Previous bikes:  2007 Suzuki Bandit 650S & 2009 Ducati Monster 696
Current bikes:  2009 Yamaha XT250 & 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

SDRider

Quote from: jh1328 on June 25, 2012, 07:58:07 PM
True, and I agree that it's about the fun of cornering but one of the things I adore about my r6 is the rocket power out of a corner to the straight. I just don't want to get on the throttle and go "I'm not really satisfied with the power".

Get the Streetfighter 848 then.  Don't get a Monster.

Or here's a thought, go ride both of them and then make your decision!
2014 Ducati Multistrada 1200 S
2012 Ducati Monster 1100 EVO (sold)

xsephirot

Not to discourage you OP but I have a suspect feeling that he's going to want clipons and more aggressive rearsets coming from a sportsbike. Unless you're looking for more comfort.

polivo

Ive had r6's, cbr 929 and a 2002 r1.  Im telling you that my monster 1100 feels faster than all of them. The neck snapping torque is unlike anything ive ever riden. INSTANT POWER when you twist the wrist. None of that wind it up, lawn mower, weed wacking, high end shrill. Just raw manly GRUNT.  You might miss the high end speeds, your not going any faster than 135 or so.  But the monster has no fairing, so getting the bike up to around that point, or beyond really isnt as exhilirating as on a sports bike with wind protection.  Thats my 2 cents.

wannabfast

Quote from: polivo on June 26, 2012, 05:40:37 PM
Ive had r6's, cbr 929 and a 2002 r1.  Im telling you that my monster 1100 feels faster than all of them. The neck snapping torque is unlike anything ive ever riden. INSTANT POWER when you twist the wrist. None of that wind it up, lawn mower, weed wacking, high end shrill. Just raw manly GRUNT.  You might miss the high end speeds, your not going any faster than 135 or so.  But the monster has no fairing, so getting the bike up to around that point, or beyond really isnt as exhilirating as on a sports bike with wind protection.  Thats my 2 cents.

exactly!
11' M796, SC project GP slip-ons, 1100DS cams, BMC air filter with modified airbox cover, asv levers, 14t front sprocket