No start

[ducpainter]

1) Roger, load test.
2) So don't remove the copper funnel thing?  Get NGK 4339.  Got it.

3) Any ideas on the pump relays?  Is that a real option or are they just pulling my leg?

Yes, do remove the tip on the top so it looks like a threaded stud.

Yes, the pump relay is a definite possibility.

You can check to see if the relay is providing power to the pump connector under the fuel tank. No power to the red wire probably means a bad relay. If you have power at the red wire either the pump went bad, or the connection inside the sender is faulty.

[JoshuaCJCohen]

Would I check power to the red wire with a voltmeter?

[ducpainter]

Would I check power to the red wire with a voltmeter?

Ideally yes. You could also use a test light for this application

[suzyj]

Your motor needs to turn before it'll start. Get it turning (battery) then think about other things.

Fuel pump relays don't prevent the starter from turning.

[ducpainter]

Your motor needs to turn before it'll start. Get it turning (battery) then think about other things.

Fuel pump relays don't prevent the starter from turning.

If you re-read his first post, it was turning over.

[suzyj]

If you re-read his first post, it was turning over.

Next you'll be saying engineers can read.

[Howie]

Something is real strange, the last year of the 900 was 2002. 

Anyway, as ducpainter said, the battery must be properly charged and load tested.  The voltage reading the shop did is called open cell voltage and tells a good tech the state of charge, but not health.  That is where the load test comes into play.  A battery that reads 12.6 but has trouble cranking the engine and dims the headlight is a symptom of either a weak battery or high resistance in the starter circuit (including ground).  It does seem like your battery should be good enough to run the pump, but diagnosing without a known good battery is iffy.

Relays can be tested.  Your relay is a standard 4 prong.  Battery positive to terminal 30.  Terminal 86 to battery ground.  When 12 volts is applied to terminal 85 12 volts should be present at 87, which would go to your fuel pump.  Alternative (easier and faster) is take a jumper wire and jump from terminal 30 to terminal 87.  Turn key on.  Pump now hums?  Bad relay.  No hum?  Check for voltage at terminal 30 (key on). No voltage at 30?  Bad fuse or wiring problem between fuse and relay.  Power at 30?  Take meter or test light and hook up to 85.  Turn key on.  There should be power at 85.  If not, wiring problem between the socket and the computer or (highly unlikely) bad computer.

Post some good photos of the bike and we might be able to confirm what year it is.  Posting the VIN and engine serial number might help.

[JoshuaCJCohen]

Going out of town for the weekend.  Monday afternoon will take battery to shop and have it charged and load tested. 

I will take your third paragraph with me to the shop as I have no idea what you're talking about. 

Off the plate under the seat:
DUCATIMOTOR SPA
el*92/61*00051*
ZDMM200AAXB000224
91 dB(A) - 4.125min(-1)
Vehicle code: M200AA

Picture of bike:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200476554190288&set=a.4541340185470.171579.1650164700&type=1&relevant_count=1

Thank you again for all your help.  More results Monday night.

Josh

[Howie]

That bike looks like an '01 to me.  A close up of the rear suspension and clutch cover might help.

[Ddan]

Pretty sure the hoop suspension was gone in '02

[Howie]

Yes it was!  The oil cooler looks like '00.

[Ddan]

Yes it was!  The oil cooler looks like '00.

But the rear brake doesn't

[Howie]

My '01 has the caliper on top, I don't remember where it is on an '00  Serial number is not right for an early Monster either AFAIK. 

[JoshuaCJCohen]

Hi guys,
Back from the weekend. I took the battery to the shop, they charged it and load tested and said it looks fine.  Do I know what that really means?  No.  But I took it home, turned the key and still no fuel pumps.  Hit the start switch and turned over no problem, but of course it didn't catch.  Headlight is barely dimming when turning over.  Even if the battery is weak over all it isn't the battery that is preventing the fuel pumps from priming. 

I checked my ins paperwork, which I picked up today from the ins company and its says 2000 900CC M/C.  Mystery solved? 

I'm off to the hardware store to pick up a meter and jumper wire.  Hope they have them small enough to fit the 4 prong housing.  It's pretty tiny in there.

Thanks,
Josh

[Howie]

Great, now you know the battery is good!  The jumper wire is a do it yourself item.  A piece of 16 gauge wire and two male spade connectors.

If you have the owner's manual there is a wiring diagram in the back, if not, you can find a wiring diagram here  http://www.ducatiusa.com/services/maintenance/index.do  only goes back to 2001, but that diagram will work for your '00.