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lawbreaker
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 19, 2013, 02:19:16 PM »
I'm all for a combo of membership longevity and post count to be able so sell items.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 21, 2013, 08:18:37 PM »
I think there are some really good ideas and suggestions going on here but, to be honest, I'm still on the fence.
I think the long term, heavy contributors, and/or highly knowledgable members often benefit from letting anyone sell here. It usually results in a good deal for the buyer. Most of us who have been here for a while or that know enough about these bikes know when an item for sale isn't worth more than a look at the thread and will move on. And buying online is always "buyer beware" so there's no getting around that.
So, effectively, the member who joins just to sell "shit" isn't actually selling anything. But, again, if its a good part or good gear at a good price then why not?
That being said, I also understand wanting to cut down on the number of members who post nothing but 'for sale' threads. Like the member that Raux is talking about. If that's the case then I might suggest looking a little harder at the lesser known, low posting members. If all of their previous posts are 'for sale' threads and nothing else then maybe a Mod can send a message, really contribute or get booted.
I think all of the Mods are great dudes (even though I've been the cause of a run-in or two) and you guys have created a great place for us to hang out and I'm sure regulating every thread is quite tiresome. Why not induct another member to the Hall of Mods solely to keep the for sale section in order? I'm sure someone would love to take on that position.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 22, 2013, 01:01:32 PM »
In the end, the Founders can do whatever they want, but I doubt they will be banning anyone simply because they just post on the For Sale section. In a way, they are contributing. If the guy that is selling these items is a douche, but is fair priced and delivers on what he advertises... I expect that if anyone had a bad experience buying from this guy there would be a huge thread about it. We're all big boys and girls here. If you decide to buy anything from some stranger or the web, regardless of how many posts, then you're always taking a risk.
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August 22, 2013, 04:33:58 PM »
How many more times does it need to be brought up that this isn't about scammers?
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 22, 2013, 04:43:58 PM »
Until this thread drops off to Page two evidently.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: hbliam on August 22, 2013, 04:33:58 PM
How many more times does it need to be brought up that this isn't about scammers?
This is the DMF...
they can't let facts get in the way.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 23, 2013, 09:03:46 AM »
Here is a little perspective from another list that I am on.
* Members are permitted one FS notice per week. It can only be posted on Mondays.
"Unlike most other lists, the OldTools charter expressly allows
commercial postings by its members, with the stipulation that the
sellers also participate in the group's discussions. In short, we
don't mind if you sell old tools via the list, so long as you pass on
your expertise with it."
We'll give this a try and see how it works.
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The Bearded Duc
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: hbliam on August 22, 2013, 04:33:58 PM
How many more times does it need to be brought up that this isn't about scammers?
I hope this wasn't directed at me, I don't think my post had anything to do with spammers.
Quote from: duccarlos on August 22, 2013, 01:01:32 PM
In the end, the Founders can do whatever they want, but I doubt they will be banning anyone simply because they just post on the For Sale section.
This poll thread is solely supposed to be about new members posting in the For Sale section.
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Quote from: The Bearded Duc on August 23, 2013, 11:47:55 AM
I hope this wasn't directed at me, I don't think my post had anything to do with spammers.
It wasn't directed at you because your post had nothing to do with spammers or scammers.
BTW DP: When is this poll/thread gonna end?
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 23, 2013, 01:48:10 PM »
I vote for let anyone post.
After reading this thread (I missed the initial discussion because I was busy...), and checking out the Parts section... I can easily see the annoyance (and I have shared it) with the "join-to-sell" members (particularly one recent member).
I would rather see turds who are using this solely as their "pre-targeted market" get the ban-hammer.
Scenario: member joins, swaps out a few parts and lists the OEM stuff for sale. Not much to add yet because this member is still getting to know both the forum and the bike (I didn't post much for the first few years because I didn't have anything to say).
The "number of posts" requirement for sales has turned me off of some other forums.
1st or 2nd post is in Parts? Sure.
20 posts only in Parts? Why aren't you admitting that you are a vendor and becoming a sponsor?
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: Dirty Duc on August 23, 2013, 01:48:10 PM
20 posts only in Parts? Why aren't you admitting that you are a vendor and becoming a sponsor?
Considering that many of our sponsors contribute more to the 'community' than just selling parts ... this is a very valid point.
But that only places us back where this whole discussion started.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: hbliam on August 23, 2013, 12:18:28 PM
It wasn't directed at you because your post had nothing to do with spammers or scammers.
BTW DP: When is this poll/thread gonna end?
I don't know.
The results are overwhelmingly in favor of some sort of post requirement to start for sale threads, but I was really hoping to get more participation from the members.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: ducpainter on August 23, 2013, 03:07:28 PM
I don't know.
The results are overwhelmingly in favor of some sort of post requirement to start for sale threads, but I was really hoping to get more participation from the members.
I wouldn't worry so much about the people that refuse to vote.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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Quote from: Betty on August 23, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
Considering that many of our sponsors contribute more to the 'community' than just selling parts ... this is a very valid point.
But that only places us back where this whole discussion started.
I don't think it sets the discussion back, this particular incident seems to have stemmed from a relatively small number of our FS posts... which don't really clutter up the forum for very long with the limited lifetime of FS threads (this I DO like!)... and one member in particular who appears to be taking advantage of our policies.
I am in favor of moderators moderating this kind of behavior through less automated processes. Understanding we are a community and hence the on-topic commentary allowed in FS threads (which seems to drive what looks like more sane pricing than other forums I have frequented). After reading the commentary in the one thread and the responses it received, I support and endorse banning that kind of arse-first salesmanship.
It is my completely unscientific and inexperienced belief that someone who responds to legitimate questions in a FS thread with hostility and/or defensiveness is the kind of person who will post the minimum number of times with pointless asshattery just to list. And then the members posts don't get deleted automatically after 90 days.
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Re: Soooo...what do you all think
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August 25, 2013, 11:47:29 PM »
Quote from: hbliam on August 23, 2013, 04:36:10 PM
I wouldn't worry so much about the people that refuse to vote.
I'm inclined to agree with hbliam here......
.... but in the face of the massive non-vote for "don't care", I'm also not sure that we - the 104 who voted for some pre-selling post threshold - have any mandate to request change...
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Quote from: ducpainter on August 23, 2013, 03:07:28 PM
I don't know.
The results are overwhelmingly in favor of some sort of post requirement to start for sale threads, but I was really hoping to get more participation from the members.
All have had the opportunity to express an opinion here and to vote.
To date only 136 members have done so.
What that lamentably shows is that to the vast majority of members this is a non-issue.
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