Bike won't start after changing fuel filter! Please help!

Started by malamikigo, September 10, 2013, 05:25:54 PM

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malamikigo

**Note, the first couple issues in this post have already been resolved, I changed the thread title to reflect the current update**


So I am trying to change my fuel filter. I searched far and wide for a guide online, could not find one, so I decided to just dive in and try it. Never done this before on any bike. I've had my tank off before so I figured that was probably he hardest part.

So anyway, I got it off, took note of where the fuel filter assembly is, and started to undo it, these bolts visible in the bottom here:



As I started to loosen the first one, this happened:



I tightened it back up shortly after it started spewing all over the place, but I'm wondering if I'm make the beast with two backsing this up already?

Is this whole assembly submersed in the tank? Do I need to have it completely empty before removing it? I thought I would pull the assembly off and disconnect a line and I would just have to plug off the line with a golf tee. I currently have about 1/8th of a tank in the tank.

Please help the noob mechanic.

malamikigo

Nevermind, I got that aspect sorted. Now I'm stuck again though.  Been prying at this clamp with my leatherman for a while and cannot get the damn thing undone/off. Any suggestions?




DarkMonster620

did you purchase a new clamp? why? that one is a 'one use only' . . .
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Those clamps are one use.  Pick up some hose clamps or use a gemplers wire tool to seal it.  No way to reuse those hose clamps.
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malamikigo

I think you guys misunderstood....I wasn't trying to reuse the clamps, I know they're one use only.  I have hose clamps to replace them with...the issue I was having was that I was having difficulty just getting them off in the first place.  But I did end up getting them off by mangling them with my leatherman till i could slide it off the hose.

I installed the new filter, put it all back together the same way it came out, but now I've run into another issue.  She just won't start now.  I just get a repeating clunk clunk clunk clunk sound.  I made a video:

Ducati 696 won't start after fuel filter change

No idea what this is about.  As far as I could tell it all went back together easily and exactly as I took it apart.  Is there some step I might've missed somehow? 


SpikeC

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   2009 M1100S Assorted blingy odds and ends(now gone)
2008 Bimota DB5R  woo-Hoo!
   1965 T100SC

DarkMonster620

pump priming?
filter in the correct position?
fuel in the tank?


Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

malamikigo

Quote from: Darkmonster620 on September 10, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
pump priming?
filter in the correct position?
fuel in the tank?


- The pump is priming when i turn the key, yes. 
- I believe it is? There's only really one way to put it in.  I replaced it exactly as the old one was.  Below is a photo of the new filter in place before i put it back in the tank.
- There is fuel in the tank, I dumped a 5L jerrycan of fresh fuel into it before starting it. 



Quote from: SpikeC on September 10, 2013, 08:10:49 PM
no comment

Thanks for your super helpful input.  If that's supposed to be some condescending remark on my mechanical ability, maybe you should just stay on out of threads where people are asking for help.  We all started somewhere.  Way to be supportive.

DarkMonster620

I can only suggest open and close the ign switch not the starter a few more times to get fuel all over the system then try again

Did any fuel get to the fuse box during dissembly? Any hose kinked?

I am on my back on my bed on my cellphone in case I dont answer I will do tomorrow
Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

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Quote from: malamikigo on September 10, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
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Thanks for your super helpful input.  If that's supposed to be some condescending remark on my mechanical ability, maybe you should just stay on out of threads where people are asking for help.  We all started somewhere.  Way to be supportive.

Don't fret, SpikeC painted himself into a corner by repeating an (usually) unhelpful suggestion too many times, and got reprimanded for it.
And now when it's relevant, and possibly helpful, he can't say it.
Perhaps now he is enlightened on how the tech forum works.

Confirm that your battery cable connections are clean and tight (not too tight, the battery terminals aren't bulletproof).
Confirm that your battery is fully charged.
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malamikigo

Quote from: Speeddog on September 10, 2013, 08:37:21 PM
Confirm that your battery cable connections are clean and tight (not too tight, the battery terminals aren't bulletproof).
Confirm that your battery is fully charged.

Thanks, I will check both those things out tomorrow. 


Quote from: Darkmonster620 on September 10, 2013, 08:31:17 PM
I can only suggest open and close the ign switch not the starter a few more times to get fuel all over the system then try again

Did any fuel get to the fuse box during dissembly? Any hose kinked?

I am on my back on my bed on my cellphone in case I dont answer I will do tomorrow

I tried cycling the ignition a few times when I was first trying to start it.  Had the same thought process as you on that one.  No avail though. 

I don't think any fuel would've got on the fuse box during disassembly.   Tank was pretty clear of the bike during that initial leak I had.  I'll check for kinked hoses tomorrow as well, but again I don't think so. 

memper

Quote from: Speeddog on September 10, 2013, 08:37:21 PM
Don't fret, SpikeC painted himself into a corner by repeating an (usually) unhelpful suggestion too many times, and got reprimanded for it.
And now when it's relevant, and possibly helpful, he can't say it.
Perhaps now he is enlightened on how the tech forum works.

Confirm that your battery cable connections are clean and tight (not too tight, the battery terminals aren't bulletproof).
Confirm that your battery is fully charged.

You said the B word...
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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

memper

OP: it might not hurt to check the relays as well.

Oh, and from a novice mechanic to a beginner mechanic, my advice is to check things going from simple stuff to complex and retrace your steps.

Bike started...enter stage right, human interaction...now no starty.
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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

malamikigo

Quote from: memper on September 10, 2013, 08:53:46 PM

Bike started...enter stage right, human interaction...now no starty.

[laugh]  lol, that gave me a laugh.

Thanks for the tips, I'll be back at it tomorrow and see what I can get figured out.