Four new 'high-end' models on the way

Started by Raux, September 12, 2013, 06:10:43 PM

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ChrisK

Quote from: caperix on October 11, 2013, 07:38:39 AM
So a carbon fiber rear subframe & a mag airbox/front chasis.  40 lbs still sounds like alot of weight to loose if that is the true difference.  Very cool bike, but not as trick as the D16.

Maybe they went from a 5 gallon gas tank to a 1 gallon. That's 32ish lbs dropped right there!  [roll]
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ChrisK

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MadDuck

Quote from: caperix on October 11, 2013, 07:38:39 AM
So a carbon fiber rear subframe & a mag airbox/front chasis.  40 lbs still sounds like alot of weight to loose if that is the true difference.  Very cool bike, but not as trick as the D16.

Maybe not quite as trick in some areas but still very slick.  Also very likely not to have all the problems that the D16's had/have too.   [roll]
No modification goes unpunished. Memento mori.  Good people drink good beer.  Things happen pretty fast at high speeds.

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duc_fan

Gaaaaahhhhh....

Sorry, had a little nerd-gasm there.  ;)

It could be argued this is actually *more* trick than the D16.  The D16 "only" made 200 HP, weighed more, was by all reports harder to ride, and did not have any electronic rider aids or programmable features (at that time their traction control was some kind of industrial secret).  The 1199 Panigale S (not even the Superleggera) has dial-a-horsepower, electronically adjustable suspension, adjustable traction control, and adjustable ABS.  You can set up the 3 modes as you see fit and flip through them with the click of a button, on the fly.

Is it a V4 street-legal MotoGP bike?  Nope.  That, IMO, is about the only thing that gives the D16 an edge in "coolness" and collectability.

Now, all that said... I can appreciate the technological coolness of these extreme machines.  These are two-wheeled exotics, no doubt about it.  But... I still prefer old-skool non-electronic vehicles.  I want to see the throttle map adjusted by changing the curve of the cable roller.  Tuning mixture with a screwdriver.  Brake feel set up mechanically and controlled totally by feel.  These new machines are amazing, but just don't get me as excited as a well-tuned purely mechanical beast.
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ChrisK

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duccarlos

Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
my keyboard just served me with paternity suit.

koko64

Base model has 135hp and S model 145 hp and carbon. I wonder if thats rwhp or at the crank?
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Lucumon

Has Ducati or any other manufacturer advertised the lower number?  Or do they add the maximum number with caveats in really small script?

Farking marketeers....
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nickshelby500kr

I can't think of any manufacturer that has used WHP numbers in advertising.

koko64

I thought/was hoping maybe the dealer was giving the inside info rather than the brochure knfo.
If 135 is at the crank, then a well tuned S4RS would give it a run for its money. Maybe they're detuned for more grunt down low.
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Even if it's 135 at the wheel, the new SuperDuke will CRUSH it.













































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JohnEE

Quote from: SpikeC on October 21, 2013, 07:08:39 PM
too bad there aren't any dealers.
And if the Euro price is anything to go by....  â,¬17,599 ( sourced from here ) is a lot for a naked. If ducati doesn't fudge up the looks this will be a very interesting comparison. I was curious to see how Ducati's euro pricing translates to USA and it was 1-1 pretty much (13' Hyper SP â,¬14,590 Ducati Berlin and $14,695 at my local Duc dealer.). I did the same for a KTM 1190 RC8 R  â,¬16,295 at KTM Berlin and $16,499 at the closest KTM dealer. The new monster will probably be priced around the 15k mark if i had to guess. The S4R was 13k MSRP brand new in '07 with the SR4S getting 15k. Just some number for thought.....  [coffee]

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