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Convert123
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« on: September 20, 2013, 06:53:25 PM »

Hey y'all,
I've recently had my eyes fixed on getting a Ducati Monster. However I'm having a very hard time figuring out if i want to go with the 796 vs the 696. I rode the 696 and loved it but i haven't had a chance to take the 796 out. What are the real differences besides the swing arm in the rear (i really like this), seat height, and the engine size.

Ps.. I call myself the convert because i was set on a Jap bike until i sat on that 696. Now I'm addicted to finding a Duc for myself and excited about riding it even more.
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2013, 11:31:34 PM »

Welcome.

796 vs 696?

796 has everything that you liked about the 696 but comes with the SSS that you already identified.... 

and...

MORE POWER.

Better forks too.  696 front end is pretty basic.

Me?  I'd go the 796.

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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2013, 05:02:39 AM »

If you are taller the seat height would be a bit better on the 796. I bought a 696 and was crushed when the 796 came out because it has the extra bits that the 696 doesn't.

Go with the 796 for sure.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 11:22:17 AM »

Cost
Seat Height (can be made the same either way)
Swingarm
Power
Forks
Wheels
Insurance
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 11:27:30 AM »

^insurance?
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 11:51:27 AM »

some insurance companies charge by cc as well as type
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2013, 02:26:02 PM »

A couple of days ago my local Ducati dealer gave me an information pack on the Monsters and I looked up the prices on the 'net.

From that information, the 796 is A$2,000 dearer, front and rear suspension are the same for both, 796 has a SSS, the 796 seat height is 800 mm Vs 770 for the 696 and the 796 is 2 Kg heavier, wheels and tyres are different.

The 796 makes 64 kW (87 hp) @ 8,250 and 78 Nm (58 ft lb) @ 6,250.
The 696 makes 59.8 kW (80 hp) @9,000 and 69 Nm (50.6 ft lb) @ 7,750

It seems to get an adjustable front suspension means forking out for the 1100 for an additional $2,000. The 1100 has more power and torque developed at lower revs, the Ducati Safety Pack (whatever that is) and the same miserable 13.5 l (3.6 gallon) fuel tank.

Considering the relatively heavy fuel consumption of all three bikes that small fuel capacity is very off-putting.


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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2013, 02:55:27 PM »

If you have a budget look at upfront costs + plus fuel costs plus insurance plus any mods you have to do for gien model to get what you want
If no mudget concerns get the best bike out the door

personally the 796 v 696 is appearance. sss v dss
seat height is a $20 part
power diff is negliable

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2013, 03:52:25 PM »

I would seriously consider a good second hand 1100 evo. I just upgraded from 696 to a 12month old 1100evo with <2000klms and I couldn't be happier

Believe me when I say if you buy the 696 you'll want an 1100 pretty damn quick. The Safety pack gives you ABS and switchable traction control.

I take it you're an Aussie like me - I paid $15500 for my evo and it cost an extra $8 a month to insure with QBE mainly because of the increase in value.

Good 1100 evos can be had for that money every day of the week and I would recommend trying to find one with termies already fitted.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2013, 04:39:19 PM »

Convert123,

Hard to give you much advice when we don't know much about you. We have an intro thread. The more info you give us, the better will be the answers to your questions... And while you are at it, ADD TO YOUR PROFILE YOUR GENERAL LOCATION!!!  Grin (Sorry; a pet peeve of mine on the DMF.  Cool) http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=111.0

As for 696 vs 796, I rode them all before buying. The 696 was nice, but not enough "go"  for my mission. The 796 was "adequate".  Wink Didn't need an EVO for a "roadster". If I were buying another touring bike, I'd need that displacement.

Two years ago in the U.S. a 796 was a no-brainer as it was ~ $1,000 more than a 696 and had ABS standard, (which works, BTW).

A 796 is on an EVO chassis. The 2011- 696 and 796 have a respectable Marzocchi fork. They can both use a cheap Ohlins shock, as can the EVO. Mine was $625.

If you are not living in Europe, you need to fit a 14T front sprocket before the bike leaves the showroom or you'll never find 6th gear.  Wink

For me the 796 is quick enough. My son who weighs 75 lbs more than I do has no trouble cruising the nice two lane at 80+ MPH on mine. The mods I found essential are below in my signature. YMMV.

Introduce yourself and let us know what you decide!
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2013, 06:31:34 PM »

Sorry y'all for not introducing myself.
I'm Tyler. I live in the Monterey bay, California, usa. I'm 5'7" with a 30.5 inseam. I've got some time to decide on what i want. The wife said to wait till taxes are back. I would be using this bike for all the above. I put these tcomparison due the height of the seat. Next summer I'm hoping to take a 1k mile trip also. I'm not to worried on budget because being military i get a dang good discount from the dealers around here.
I would also use this bike for day to day commuting to work. Traffic is bad here so I've been riding my Lil ninja till today when is sprung a leak in a gasket. I will fix it Monday or so and be back to riding.
My background was mostly in dirt bikes with a dabble of cruisers till i got my Lil ninja and i love the sport bike feel. I call myself a convert to ducati because i used to think they were just over priced but now I drool at the thought now that i know i can afford one.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2013, 06:43:44 PM »

796 and 1100 have the taller seat height but can easily and cheaply lowered to the 696 height so don't let that be a deciding factor

but does sound like u have a tght budget

A new 696/796 will price like a used 1100/1100 evo restuvely

i have a 696 since 2008 and although I've modded it only one time have i said i want more power and that was when my ego was bruised on the autobahn by a cbr
I've done 1800 mile trips on it solo and 2up

i do now have a larger st2 for two up trips but the monster has always been enough

It will do triple digits easily and handles like a dream
sorry I'm not one of thos that will say bigger is beeter on cc
bikes have way more power than is needed on the street these days
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2013, 07:17:08 PM »

Raux,
 Like you i am not worried about huge amounts of power. I have let the seat height kinda help me lean towards the 796 and 696. That's actually one of two reasons i didn't want an 1100. I don't want to lower anything on the suspension as to not worry about playing with the handling and messing something up.
I won't be doing any two ups. Maybe just day trips. The wife isn't much into camping without some commodities.
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2013, 07:21:51 PM »

sorry I'm not one of thos that will say bigger is beeter on cc
bikes have way more power than is needed on the street these days
waytogo

Bigger bangs may = more throbbing/heavier vibration too?

30.5" inseam is no issue with any of them. I'm 5' 8" with a 29" inseam and on a Sargent saddle which is a hair taller than stock. It's a stretch for an old geezer but manageable on the bike.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2013, 07:42:40 PM »

Maybe it's just a comfort thing for me then. The 796 was very comfortable but at my comfort limit for height. I could flat foot it no problem.
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