Laying it down

Started by BoDiddley, October 01, 2013, 06:46:28 AM

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BoDiddley

What you think, on your bike would you have done the same or tried a different maneuver?

"But sire what are we to do.  You have taken all our weapons and now the heathen hordes are at the gate.  Are we to lie down and give them our lives.  Without weapons they will make us eat ourselves."

ChrisK

Was it intentional? Looks to me like he might have just grabbed a fist full of front brake and gone down on accident.

Either way, I would have TRIED to slow down as much as possible and then swerve to the left - but of course hindsight is 20/20 and I know from experience that the mind doesn't work that rationally when put in situations like that.
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ChrisK

I also believe a moderator will move this to the Riding Techniques area  ;D
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ducpainter

Quote from: ChrisK on October 01, 2013, 06:52:43 AM
I also believe a moderator will move this to the Riding Techniques area  ;D
Good guess. ;)
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BoDiddley

"But sire what are we to do.  You have taken all our weapons and now the heathen hordes are at the gate.  Are we to lie down and give them our lives.  Without weapons they will make us eat ourselves."

Triple J

Quote from: ChrisK on October 01, 2013, 06:52:14 AM
Was it intentional? Looks to me like he might have just grabbed a fist full of front brake and gone down on accident.

+1

If intentional, I would have tried to stop instead. Rubber to pavement has a better friction value than skin/leather to pavement, so you'll always stop faster using your brakes.

BoDiddley

If you watch his hands in the beginning you can see he almost takes a dive off to the right.  A little target fixation on the car he was passing probably, but I think and hope I would have done it different.   It looks like car on left, watch to see if it will pull to the right, look up to see holy crap I better jump, maneuvers were never in the program.
 

Or better yet wait a heartbeat to find the gap under the truck, push right bar ahead to get a lean, hit throttle, front brake a little, shift weight to lay it on the side, go under trucks center, come out the other side bring it up and keep going.   [laugh]
"But sire what are we to do.  You have taken all our weapons and now the heathen hordes are at the gate.  Are we to lie down and give them our lives.  Without weapons they will make us eat ourselves."

Cloner

This gent needs to practice "emergency stops".  Virtually any motorcycle stops better, steers better, and hurts its operator less when it's upright.    [Dolph]
Never appeal to a man's "better nature."  He may not have one.  Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage.  R.A. Heinlein

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ducpainter

Quote from: BoDiddley on October 01, 2013, 11:49:14 AM
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Or better yet wait a heartbeat to find the gap under the truck, push right bar ahead to get a lean, hit throttle, front brake a little, shift weight to lay it on the side, go under trucks center, come out the other side bring it up and keep going.   [laugh]


Like this?  ;D

"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



Kabulpostie

I'm hoping I would have not had to react at all. How can you miss bright orange huge Fing truck a good ways in front of you? His overtake rate of the car may indicate that he was riding a little faster than he should have. Not that I have ever ridden over the speed limit [roll] but if had I would have paid attention..you know scanning and other boring stuff that keep us from getting killed.

Long Rant over. Short version: Braked my ass off maybe been able to escape to the left, but really once I was on the brakes hard I don't know if I could have released and and turned.

$Lindz$

As soon as this clip started I thought to myself "how does this dude not see that huge orange truck... Oh shit!"

I endo'd and broke a wrist and collarbone trying to stop before hitting a stalled car in a similar situation to this (at night big black tinted SUV in front didn't see the car til late and swerved around it. I came around the SUV into a ffffffuuuuuuuuuucccckkkkkkkkk stalled car). Ever since then, it's been priority #1 for riding on the road: make sure you see EVERYTHING ahead of you. This clip is just unfortunate rider not paying attention. Next time he will. That could have been ugly.

pesto

Is his foot caught under the wheel?
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ChrisK

Quote from: pesto on October 03, 2013, 07:10:13 AM
Is his foot caught under the wheel?

I was wondering the same thing, hopefully he got that thing out!
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Steve.In.Atlanta

Ugh, that made my stomach hurt to watch.
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