Custom Starter/Run/Kill assistance

Started by memper, October 09, 2014, 08:35:37 AM

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memper

1999 m750

Starter: Brown wire and  Red/Blue wire.

Run/Kill: Brown wire and Red/Black wire.

Is brown ground? They go to coils and ignition units.

Red wires hot? They go to starter relay, fuses, and regulator.

Pretty sure I'm reading this right but it never hurts to check before accidentally frying something.  [bacon]

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DarkMonster620

Most European use Brown as ground and according to what I can see in electrical diagram for your bike, brown to have the "earth" simbol
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memper

Im at a dead end here. I've gone and got myself into yet another project on my bike. Decided to make some trick starter and run/kill buttons. Starter was no problem. Got a simple illuminated (angel eye) round, sealed, black stainless momentary. 12v/10a. I've got it mounted in the holes in the neck gussets on my frame. Great.

Been looking and looking for a match to run on the other gusset but I'll be darned if I can find a 30a(or greater) 12v latching push button switch that will fit in the frame hole (3/4").
I suppose I could run a toggle with the ratings I need and not mount it there but kills my plan. And toggles look silly IMO.

So I come here. Any suggestions?
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ducpainter

Why do you need a 30a switch?

The kill switch only kills ignition.
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memper

Bc according to my Haynes wiring diagram the engine stop switch has a 30a fuse. Starter has a 7.5a fuse.
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Speeddog

The run/stop switch supplies power to the ignition coils and ignitor boxes, and the starter switch.
That's all.

Either the Haynes manual is incorrect, or it's pilot error.
That circuit has a 7.5A fuse.

Run the same version of momentary switch, but wired opposite.
You'll have to hold the button down until the engine stops running.
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memper

I have the latching version but its rated at 10a so I thought I couldnt use it. Heres a pic of my fuse legend:
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memper

According to this old thread we had discussed using a 15a switch for the run/kill and a 10a switch for the starter.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=63865.0

It would be sweet if I'm being a dumbass and the 10a latching switch I have for the shutoff could work.
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Speeddog

That wiring diagram is not applicable, as it shows a fuel pump as load on fuse 2.
1999 M750 did not have an electric fuel pump.

It would be prudent to get the proper wiring diagram for your bike.

Those switch capacities sound fine.
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ducpainter

I have the one from my 96 M900 if you're interested.

Not sure if it's exact, but it doesn't have a fuel pump on it. :P
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memper

Quote from: Speeddog on October 13, 2014, 03:37:53 PM
That wiring diagram is not applicable, as it shows a fuel pump as load on fuse 2.
1999 M750 did not have an electric fuel pump.

It would be prudent to get the proper wiring diagram for your bike.

Those switch capacities sound fine.

Agreed. I will look around. Though now my bike does in fact have an electric pump.
Switch capacities sound fine... you mean 15a for the run and 10a for the start?
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memper

Quote from: ducpainter on October 13, 2014, 05:13:43 PM
I have the one from my 96 M900 if you're interested.

Not sure if it's exact, but it doesn't have a fuel pump on it. :P
Sure send it on over. Thanks!
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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

Speeddog

Quote from: memper on October 13, 2014, 09:02:41 PM
Agreed. I will look around. Though now my bike does in fact have an electric pump.
Switch capacities sound fine... you mean 15a for the run and 10a for the start?


Well, with an electric pump, then that should be taken into account, especially in regard to the switches and fuses.

Have you used a relay to switch the fuel pump?
What circuit is it on?
Do you know how much current it draws?
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