'11 796 not starting, no neutral light

[teddy037.3]

:edit: forget it. if a new battery doesn't sort it, I will tow it to the shop. I give the make the beast with two backs up. it's only money, eh?




2011 hym796, 57xx miles, DP termi kit

tard's not starting again, this time w/no neutral light.  last time it wasn't starting, it was the battery. charged it, bike ran fine for a few weeks, now it doesn't.

topped up the battery, still no go.  no fuses blown, either.  any ideas before I tow it to the dealer and throw more money at it?  

[DarkMonster620]

Teddy !!!!

My man!!!!

TRy starting with the clutch lever pulled in and side stand up . . .if it doesn't start, then it might be the position sensor in the back of the engine . . .

How you being doing?

[teddy037.3]

Teddy !!!!

My man!!!!

TRy starting with the clutch lever pulled in and side stand up . . .if it doesn't start, then it might be the position sensor in the back of the engine . . .

How you being doing?

did that, no go either

[Speeddog]

Is it cranking?

[teddy037.3]

Nope. Dash display will come on, but nothng at all on start.

It started up fine the last morning I took it out, but stopped starting in the parking lot later that morning.

[lightspd]

Something broken with the kill switch maybe?  It doesn't make any since with the neutral light not working, but just throwing it out there.

[Speeddog]

Nope. Dash display will come on, but nothng at all on start.

It started up fine the last morning I took it out, but stopped starting in the parking lot later that morning.

Any immobilizer light activity?

[DarkMonster620]

as said . . . it could be the gear position sensor . . . or "neutral switch" located in the rear right side of engine . . . symptons are the same as a M796 locally . .

[teddy037.3]

Nope, nothing unusual, immobilizer-wise.  Tried both keys, just in case.  Unless there is no flashing lights to tell you it's locked down.

Carlos, I take it I can't fix this myself if it is that sensor?

[DarkMonster620]

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Carlos, I take it I can't fix this myself if it is that sensor?

If the case, it is a bit "cumbersome" to take out/in . . .

[teddy037.3]

That's what I was afraid of...

[Speeddog]

If it's just that the ECU isn't getting a signal that the engine is in neutral, it would start if you pulled the clutch.

Assuming that the clutch switch is working.

[teddy037.3]

okay, so I fiddled with the bike in my best effort to record what may or may not be working.
the same happened hitting the start button in both neutral and in gear:
   kickstand down- no clutch=0  clutch=0
   kickstand up-     no clutch=0  clutch=1

in gear, it makes sense that I could start only w/the stand up and clutch in.  I could always hear a whine (fuel pump?), and the solenoid would only click in the 4th condition.
in neutral, the bike was behaving identically. only condition 4, only the solenoid, and no N light.

could it be a combination of things? could my starter be toast, as well?



I am starting to regret having installed that DP system, it's been bad luck from the off. 

[DarkMonster620]

the DP system has nothing to do with it . . . I'd say more "lack of use" . . .

[teddy037.3]

the DP system has nothing to do with it . . . I'd say more "lack of use" . . .

a dead battery, I could deal with.  this bullshit is bullshit.

the bike ran like a boss while it was all stock, no matter how much time may or may not have passed where it sat.  in any case, I'm stuck w/this pretty, cursed, piece of shit for now.  maybe I should move it to my living room.

I probably should have gotten the beemer instead.






yes, I'm being irrational right now. I'm pissed off atm