putting my bike together...please help me out along the way..

Started by Rudemouthsky, March 16, 2015, 03:27:56 AM

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koko64

2015 Scrambler 800

Rudemouthsky

Quote from: koko64 on March 19, 2015, 03:51:45 PM
How many teeth on the sprocket?

15/41....would a 14 give me more clearance?  [evil]

I'm at the limit of my 102 link chain with this setup.

I'll add that the rear doesn't *look* absurdly high by any means, for what that's worth.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

ducpainter

I'll comment in auto body tech lingo when talking about doors hitting fenders while opening.

...a miss is as good as a mile. [thumbsup]
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koko64

 ;)

With raised rear ride height, the 14 is more likely to impact the chain slider and swingarm iirc.
2015 Scrambler 800

Rudemouthsky

Quote from: ducpainter on March 19, 2015, 04:51:08 PM
I'll comment in auto body tech lingo when talking about doors hitting fenders while opening.

...a miss is as good as a mile. [thumbsup]

Quote from: koko64 on March 19, 2015, 04:52:59 PM
;)

With raised rear ride height, the 14 is more likely to impact the chain slider and swingarm iirc.

So I should take these comments to mean; "it's all good" then, I take it..
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

ducpainter

"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



monsta

93 M900 - 07 ST3 - 00 748s trackbike - 78 900SS - 13 848 EVO Corse SE

Rudemouthsky

"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Rudemouthsky

In consideration of my rear end height and 30mm steering offset, I've placed the rear wheel at the rearmost position. As in, until it couldn't go any further back. Beyond making sure the axle won't rub the back of the swingarm cut outs, should I give it some extra room for any reason?
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

NAKID

Quote from: Rudemouthsky on March 20, 2015, 12:06:31 PM
In consideration of my rear end height and 30mm steering offset, I've placed the rear wheel at the rearmost position. As in, until it couldn't go any further back. Beyond making sure the axle won't rub the back of the swingarm cut outs, should I give it some extra room for any reason?

If you do that, how are you going to adjust the chain?
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

ducpainter

Quote from: Rudemouthsky on March 20, 2015, 12:06:31 PM
In consideration of my rear end height and 30mm steering offset, I've placed the rear wheel at the rearmost position. As in, until it couldn't go any further back. Beyond making sure the axle won't rub the back of the swingarm cut outs, should I give it some extra room for any reason?
What NAKID said...

Also, if the swing arm is angled down at the wheel end, which it undoubtedly will be, it will make the back of the bike higher
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



Rudemouthsky

Sup guys! (and anonymous gals??  :o  :-*)

Sorry for the lack of pics, will post some when I get to my garage, but let's see if someone can help in the meantime.

I "roughed in" the wiring, meaning I just wanted to hear the engine crank and see everything light up. I'm somewhat stuck in 2 places. Harness is from a 2000 carby M600 but does not jive with the parts diagram. This is a weird year for the Monster harnesses, they are almost a hybrid of 01 carby models and 99< models.

- I'm not really sure how to ground everything properly, and I can't find a detailed diagram anywhere. I currently have a 4ga wire running from my negative terminal directly to the post/mounting point on my engine. (the hollow screw), and the negative lead from the solenoid goes to the neg battery terminal as well, with both "sandwiched" together and bolted down. From what I understand there is a frame mounting point involved. Can someone please describe the grounding process completely or better yet link me a photo?

- Everything lights up when I turn the key. Tail light, headlight, and turn signals all function properly. Starter has a nice new beefy cable to the solenoid and the afore mentioned beefy cable to the neg battery terminal. Tapping the starter button however, gives me nothing. I can hear the relay click/engage when I raise the side stand. Starter will engage when I "jump" the solenoid with a screwdriver. I believe I have either an issue with things not being grounded properly, the right switchgear not being connected properly, or the sidestand switch not functioning correctly. There is a "mystery wire" exiting the loom where the female connection for the sidestand is that doesn't jive with my '98 parts/dummy bike. So this may also be the culprit. Are there models that require the neutral light switch to be connected in order for the sidestand safety switch to function properly?

- Somewhat unrelated; the rectifier is a MOSFET Ricks model designed for the newer charging systems (my motor is a 96) the rectifier has 2 leads, but I can only find one vacant plug on my loom that fits.

I can take nice photos of anything that can help you help me. I'm at a point with this bike where my limited skills are no longer cutting it...the ability to follow instructions and turn wrenches. I don't understand vehicle electrical/charging/fueling systems. But if I know what goes where I'm good. I'd like to get everything wired and tidied up properly today so I can proceed with taking on the carbs and fuel lines...which at that point will give me a running, riding motorcycle.  [Dolph]  [drink]  :)

Thanks...

"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Howie

Older Monsters had a ground cable from battery to frame to engine.  Later models, battery directly to engine.  One less connection, one less place for voltage drop problems.  Check the connectors at the solenoid.  The red/blue wire is from the starter button and should have power key on, sidestand up (not sure on a 2000), in neutral (yes switch needs to be hooked up) when you push the starter button.  The other wire is ground.  Power at the red/blue wire and good ground?  Check solenoid.  Easy way?  supply 12V to one small terminal on the solenoid, ground the other small terminal, bike should crank.  Make sure the bike is in neutral.  No power at the red/blue?  Trace back.

Photo or sketch of the leads in question on the regulator?

Rudemouthsky

Quote from: howie on April 25, 2015, 11:14:04 AM
Older Monsters had a ground cable from battery to frame to engine.  Later models, battery directly to engine.  One less connection, one less place for voltage drop problems.  Check the connectors at the solenoid.  The red/blue wire is from the starter button and should have power key on, sidestand up (not sure on a 2000), in neutral (yes switch needs to be hooked up) when you push the starter button.  The other wire is ground.  Power at the red/blue wire and good ground?  Check solenoid.  Easy way?  supply 12V to one small terminal on the solenoid, ground the other small terminal, bike should crank.  Make sure the bike is in neutral.  No power at the red/blue?  Trace back.

Photo or sketch of the leads in question on the regulator?

Here's the wire in question:



I don't believe my 01 had that wire. There are 3 relays under the seat, as on 01 carbed bikes. The rest of the loom is similar to 99< Carbed Monsters. Bike is in neutral. Kill switch is connected to a plug on the loom labeled with the letter "C";



Here are the male outputs on my Ricks rectifier:



Thanks Howie.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs

Rudemouthsky

Kickstand switch isn't working properly. Jumped the wires for now and moved on to something else. I have a TPO kit I'll be installing later.
"while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free." -Debs