timing advanced or retarded

Started by ducatigirl100, May 22, 2015, 06:38:22 PM

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ducatigirl100

Hi :)

I've reacenly  chaged the pick up coils (900cc 1995 monster).

Altough I've intalled the new one at the same timing mark the bike runs "rough"...
so far.......
Not the carb
not the ignition modules
not the coils

Symptoms...
engine runs rough
it backfires when I twist the trottle to hard
it "skips a beat every minute or so


Is it to advance ?


If so how I sould  adjust it ?   


koko64

Did you set the gap to spec?

You could put a timing light on the window to see where the advance mark/dot is in relation to the pointer at full advance.
2015 Scrambler 800

ducatigirl100

#2
Quote from: koko64 on May 22, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
Did you set the gap to spec?

You could put a timing light on the window to see where the advance mark/dot is in relation to the pointer at full advance.
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thats was my next step tomorow
But I dont know how to adjust it .   Do  I move the assembly to the left or the whrigt .?



Oups !!! No I didint check the gap between the sensors and the flyweel  [bang]  ;D .... I'm blonde [laugh]

Kopfjager

Might get more answers in Tech.  ;)
Woohoohoohoo! Two personal records! For breath holding and number of sharks shot in the face.

ducatigirl100

#4
Quote from: kopfjäger on May 22, 2015, 07:18:34 PM
Might get more answers in Tech.  ;)

I know,  that what I wanted to do.... but in unexplicable  way .... I wrote the tread here  [bang]

I just hope it will get relocated in "tech" by the moderator...  [bow_down]

Kopfjager

Woohoohoohoo! Two personal records! For breath holding and number of sharks shot in the face.

koko64

#6
Quote from: ducatigirl100 on May 22, 2015, 06:55:57 PM
Quote from: koko64 on May 22, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
Did you set the gap to spec?

You could put a timing light on the window to see where the advance mark/dot is in relation to the pointer at full advance.
[/quote

thats was my next step tomorow
But I dont know how to adjust it .   Do  I move the assembly to the left or the whrigt .?



Oups !!! No I didint check the gap between the sensors and the flyweel  [bang]  ;D .... I'm blonde [laugh]

The directions for adv and ret are correct as the flywheel rotates anti clockwise or forwards.
You need to adjust the gaps to spec and hopefully it will be ok.  If you move the  pick up brackets without marking their position you're in trouble. You only removed the pick ups themselves ay?
2015 Scrambler 800

WTSDS

Have you replaced the plugs ?

I find that a new pair of plugs every now and then does wonders for how my 'bike runs - whether they're needed or not :-)
2000 Monster Dark 900 ie   Stock except for low Staintunes and a centrestand. 15:39 sprockets make for excellent highway gearing

ducatigirl100

#8
I   remove the bracket beacose I add to change the sprag spring in the flywell.  And yes I mark the timing before removing it and placed it back at the exact same position.   But I didint check the air gap  [bang]   spec. 0,6mm to  0,8mm. ...

Arg!!!!!!!!!!   [bang]     I ll   check the timing whit a stobe ligth.... but I will have to open the side cover............again....

On the good side I'm practicing making good gasket joint ;D.  

ducatigirl100

Quote from: WTSDS on May 23, 2015, 04:48:10 AM
Have you replaced the plugs ?

I find that a new pair of plugs every now and then does wonders for how my 'bike runs - whether they're needed or not :-)

Yes every 200km I replace the plugs ..... ;D [laugh]

ducatigirl100

Do you know at what RPM the strobe ligth test sould be made .?

koko64

I cant remember exactly. With oem ignition boxes full advance should happen pretty quickly when you rev the bike. It's a surprisingly low rpm. The manual will say.
You have oem boxes or Ignitech?
2015 Scrambler 800

ducatigirl100

Quote from: koko64 on May 23, 2015, 02:38:57 PM
I cant remember exactly. With oem ignition boxes full advance should happen pretty quickly when you rev the bike. It's a surprisingly low rpm. The manual will say.
You have oem boxes or Ignitech?

the OEM box

ducatigirl100

Update  [thumbsup]

I bougth a stobescope this morning..... the timing was way off!!!! A lest for the last 5 years that I've owned the bike ;D

I've check the air gap..and put it up to spec......


The bike is a monster now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The trottle response is like a 1000 superbike........


OMG!!!  I'ts the best adjustment I've ever made on the bike [bow_down]


I Feel like pulling weelles all day long now!! ;D

koko64

Cool. The full adv mark line up ok in the window?
2015 Scrambler 800