S4RT died mid ride

Started by Heath, October 26, 2015, 08:32:37 PM

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Heath

I was riding home and my 2007 S4R died mid ride. No gauges, no head light, no taillight, and only my front blinkers both lit solid. So far I haven't done much to diagnosis but I have a few questions.

I started looking at fuses first and found a blow 15A fuse in the #3 spot. Owners manual and workshop manual say this is the lights. Replaced it, bike is still dead. Checked the Main Fuse and it is fine. Is the main fuse supposed to be a 30A or 40A? Owners manual says 30A, workshop manual says 40A BUT in the wiring diagram shows 30A.  So yeah I am confused. Also not all my fuses are the same they say they should be in the owners manual.

Also on the fusebox the owners manual says there are 7 fuses, workshop manual says 7 spots but 6 fuses. Oh joy what to believe.
2007 Ducati Monster S4RT
2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]

Heath

#3 is definitely lights. I checked all the fuses and disconnected my HID headlight. Once connected it blows that fuse. I'm guessing that system is toast. Not too worried, I'm changing to a new headlight set up soon.

This didn't fix my other big problem though . With key turned I have no gauges, left turn signal is solid (I did have it on when  it died), right signal is on but dim, fuel pump will prime and nothing else will work. Did I fry something? What can I check next?
2007 Ducati Monster S4RT
2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]

DarkMonster620

Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Speeddog

Has the bike gotten wet lately?
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Heath

Quote from: Speeddog on October 27, 2015, 09:55:45 AM
Has the bike gotten wet lately?
Yes, but thought I dried it good. Where should I check?
2007 Ducati Monster S4RT
2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]

Speeddog

Likely there's water in the instrument cluster.

Open it up, dry it out, reassemble.

Pray/sacrifice small farm animal/summon whatever spiritual assistance you think might help.

See if it'll start and run and work properly.
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Heath

I was washing the lower part of the bike. Regardless I took my gauges off and tried to take then apart. I have done this numerous times on my old S2R with no problem. I cannot for the life of me get the center cover off the front. The screw is out, but it feels like it's almost glued on.
2007 Ducati Monster S4RT
2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]

Heath

2007 Ducati Monster S4RT
2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]

Howie

Check ALL the fuses, don't just look, test them.  Main fuse should be 40 amps.  What is the immobilizer light doing?  Does it crank?  Fuel pump come on?

Heath

Quote from: howie on October 28, 2015, 11:03:13 AM
Check ALL the fuses, don't just look, test them.  Main fuse should be 40 amps.  What is the immobilizer light doing?  Does it crank?  Fuel pump come on?
You're positive on the 40A? I tested all the fuses. Replaced the lights 15A fuse. It blew when I reconnected my HID lights.
Immobilizer is not lit, nothing on the gauges are. No crank.. Fuel pump doess prime.
2007 Ducati Monster S4RT
2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]

Howie

Maybe not.  Since the bikes went 3 phase that fuse has been 40 amps.  The owner's manual does state 30 amps twice, which makes no sense to me since it is part of a 520 watt charging system, which exceeds 30 amps.  I don't have access to the shop manual for your bike.  What is in the holder now?  Fuse blows when the HID light is installed, does not when disconnected you have a problem in the ballast or wiring someplace between the connector and bulb. 

Relays click when you turn the key on?  How is the battery?

DarkMonster620

As per REPAIR MANUAL, albeit 2006 S4Rs with Testatretta engine:

Fuses

Regulator 40 A

Injection (pump injector coils) 20 A

Key on ECU, instrument panel, contactor, lambda and brake light  10 A

Engine Electronic Control Unit 5 A

Side light, high beam and low beam headlight 15 A

Passing light, horn and brake light 15 A

Instrument panel 5 A

Carlos
I said I was smart, never that I had my shit together
Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AMDucati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Heath

Gauges where bone dry.
I have a 30A fuse that is not blown. Not saying that is the correct fuse, just saying it's intact.
The three relays by the main fuse test good.
2007 Ducati Monster S4RT
2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]

Speeddog

Are you still getting odd blinker behavior?
The blinkers are controlled by circuitry in the gauges.
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Reseda, CA

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~~~ "We've rearranged the deck chairs, refilled the champagne glasses, and the band sounds great. This is fine." - Alberto Puig ~~~

Heath

Here is a picture of the rectifier plugs. Don't look too bad but oddly brown.


Found a fuel line leak so I'll have to put some stuff back together. :x I'll check the blinkers again in a few.
2007 Ducati Monster S4RT
2006 Ducati Monster S2R800 Dark [sold]