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lipski24
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$hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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May 31, 2016, 12:02:43 PM »
After about 30 miles of riding my 2000 Monster 750, I was coming up on a stop sign, and I clicked down into 4th gear. Well, that's all she wrote.. The shifter stayed down, the bike pretended it was in neutral, and I cant get the shifter to budge.. and I wasn't about to force anything around in fear of screwing something up worse..
So, here is what I know.
- Less than 1000 miles on a new Ducati Clutch put in at Tytler's Cycle of De Pere Wisconsin.
- no oil or anything in the sight glass on transmission side
- Clicked down into 4th, no return of shifter, and is stuck there
- Bike will roll as if its in neutral but theres a lick coming from the transmission somewhere
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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May 31, 2016, 12:15:17 PM »
The sight glass on the left side of the bike should not show oil when the engine is not running.
The linkages under the alternator cover can get beat up pretty good... plus there was an issue on some bikes with one of the return springs.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=8154.0
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=31718.0
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=67329.0
Potentially just an adjustment for you, but will require removing the alternator cover.
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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May 31, 2016, 12:39:47 PM »
And here's the thread with all the detail.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=46039.15
I believe all Pantah motors are the same...
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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May 31, 2016, 06:49:03 PM »
Quote from: Dirty Duc on May 31, 2016, 12:39:47 PM
And here's the thread with all the detail.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=46039.15
I believe all Pantah motors are the same...
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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June 01, 2016, 03:55:53 AM »
Just need to pull the left side cover and replace a spring or shift arm possibly. Might just need an adjustment, if the bike had fell on the left side it can cause this.
While you are there consider a light weight flywheel as you will be pulling yours and you might as well make an improvement and enjoy the fix.
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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June 01, 2016, 12:12:26 PM »
Whew!! This gave me a lot of relief reading yalls posts! So if its just a spring or an adjusment do you guys think that the shop that did the clutch (less than 1000 miles ago) will cover it? Cause to me it seems like they should.. Or i am just hoping too much
I havent ever dealt with bike clutches before so this would be new to me, but I do have a friend who owns the best powersports shop in town if worst comes to worst..
So should I just give her a shot by myself?
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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June 01, 2016, 12:49:16 PM »
Quote from: clubhousemotorsports on June 01, 2016, 03:55:53 AM
Just need to pull the left side cover and replace a spring or shift arm possibly. Might just need an adjustment, if the bike had fell on the left side it can cause this.
While you are there consider a light weight flywheel as you will be pulling yours and you might as well make an improvement and enjoy the fix.
I second the lightened flywheel suggestion!
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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Quote from: lipski24 on June 01, 2016, 12:12:26 PM
Whew!! This gave me a lot of relief reading yalls posts! So if its just a spring or an adjusment do you guys think that the shop that did the clutch (less than 1000 miles ago) will cover it? Cause to me it seems like they should.. Or i am just hoping too much
I havent ever dealt with bike clutches before so this would be new to me, but I do have a friend who owns the best powersports shop in town if worst comes to worst..
So should I just give her a shot by myself?
Unlikely anything they did touched those bits. The shifting bits are on the opposite side of the motorcycle, under a totally separate case.
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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June 01, 2016, 03:51:59 PM »
Dirty Duc is right they would have not had anything to do near the alternator cover.
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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June 02, 2016, 11:23:00 AM »
I failed to mention that they replaced the slave cylinder as well... Dont know if that changes anything or not.
So what he had replaced:
-Clutch Disc Set
-Piston Assembly
-Clutch control rod
-clutch springs & retainers
-clutch drum
-Ball bearing
-all the miscellaneous stuff that goes with the repairs.
The PO had over $1100 into repairs.. I only paid $1700..
Also if you could lead me in the direction of a lightweight flywheel for my bike since yall say its worth my time to replace...
Will i be needing special tools for this job??
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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June 02, 2016, 01:35:51 PM »
Lighten the stock one.
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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June 03, 2016, 10:43:46 AM »
UPDATE, (without really doing anything) I got out a small rubber dead blow hammer, and tapped on the shifter, the case, and the shaft that sticks out of the case that shifts.. sorry for not knowing the specific name.. haha but anyways, I got on it, rolled it around a little bit, and pulled the clutch in.. now I can shift it and ride it! But.... you can only click into nuetral from second, and is almost non existant. Plus, when I stat riding, if I dont ride the clutch and let first fully engage, it sounds like a small metal shrapnel war is going on inside the left side cover..
So where does this leave me..
?? Thanks for all the help guys.
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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June 03, 2016, 11:45:56 AM »
Where does that leave you?
It's probably more make the beast with two backsed up than it was before.
My recommendation is to not start the engine again.
There are several gears in that side, some of which are spinning full time while the engine is running.
When one of the springs breaks, there is at least one piece of spring roaming around.
Spinning gears do not appreciate being fed spring bits.
Get the alternator cover off and find out what's gone wrong.
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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Quote from: Speeddog on June 03, 2016, 11:45:56 AM
Where does that leave you?
It's probably more make the beast with two backsed up than it was before.
My recommendation is to not start the engine again.
There are several gears in that side, some of which are spinning full time while the engine is running.
When one of the springs breaks, there is at least one piece of spring roaming around.
Spinning gears do not appreciate being fed spring bits.
Get the alternator cover off and find out what's gone wrong.
+1 to all of the above.
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Re: $hit... Hoping its not the transmission... HELP PLEASE
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June 03, 2016, 01:26:36 PM »
Quote from: Speeddog on June 03, 2016, 11:45:56 AM
Spinning gears do not appreciate being fed spring bits.
Or much of anything else, for that matter...
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