I need pet help.

[Grampa]

I'm at a point where I am literally starting to hate our new dog.

I've had pets piss me off (shitting on the carpet etc etc), but I've never been to a point where I actually want a pet gone....really gone.

A few months ago, we (lm and myself) got a rescue wire haired fox terrier, and the dog is causing all kinds of drama and chaos in the house.

She (Annie the terrier), is a very energetic playfull dog, but the two other dogs want nothing to do with her. They wont play with her, and if lm or the boys are anywhere near the three dogs, the two will litterally attack her. The only time they are civil, is when I'm around.

Two of our three cats are old. Lilly (the oldest), continues to be tormented by Annie. Helen, another old kitty, will fight back, but see'n how Annie is bigger, and litterally will not stop her attack, no matter how bad the cat scratches her, and ends up losing. A few weeks ago, Annie ran Helen up a tree, and that ended badly (Helen fell, injured herself and bleed quite a bit) Bob (cat #3) will stand his ground and claw the shit out of Annie, until somebody pulls Annie away. Annies face has been covered in blood quite a few times. The dog knows no pain or fear. All attempts to train her...suck. The dog has no long term memory, so we all (pets and humans) tap dance around the dog.

The dog pees and shits everywhere in the house, even after having just gone outside. Turn your head...and she shits. All the outdoor praise training does nothing. Even if she spends the entire day outside.... she'll walk inside and piss.

She is a very loving dog, when it comes to humans, but the word "No!" means nothing to her. She jumps on the furniture whenever she wants, even after repeated "no!" tranings sessions. She climbs on the tables if you turn your back on her, and will only get down if you walk towards her....telling her to get down, gets you nowhere.

Neither lm or myself have ever had a dog/pet  that was this difficult, and I'm at my end.

I know the dog is being what it is, but I just can't deal with her anymore. It's not fair to her, to have me give up on her, but I'm now more concerned for the saftey of the other animals than I am in seeing Annie fit in. I half expect to come home someday and see one of the cats, dead in bloody pool. I'll lose it if that were to ever happen.

Lm wants to continue to try and train her, even if it requires hiring an outside source. Part of me thinks its will just end up being money and time flushed down the toilet. I'm not sure if thats me be'n fed up with the dog, or me be'n realistic because the dog is just not a good fit for the family. lm has had wire hair fox terriers in the past. They are stubborn and tenacious, and we expected that, but even she (lm), will say that Annie is waaaaaay beyond anything she's even had to deal with.

Anybody out there got some words of advice? The dog, makes me want to punch her, and I hate myself for feeling that way.

help

[Mother]

1 round to the back of the head

no reason to put up with a shit dog

[Grampa]

1 round to the back of the head

no reason to put up with a shit dog

you know I cant do that, ya big meanie

[Mother]

you know I cant do that, ya big meanie

I know

however

Humans keep pets to make life better

is the dog making life better?

is it worth it?

or

is it time to cut your losses?

[TiNi]

i had a smooth fox terrier,
and she was also hard to train.

she was a jumper, a chewer, very energetic and also did not understand no.
she didn't have potty issues.

we got her a crate, and we ran her till she dropped.
persistence payed off and she eventually learned some rules.

i loved this dog, who was very affectionate, and VERY, VERY smart.

try getting a crate joel. it will at least keep her from hurting the other pets when you can't be there.

[Grampa]

she spends her nights in a crate.... and will litterally scratch at the door ALL night.... every night. She never gets tired from the scratching at the door, and the "nobody is going to come open the door, so I should just give up" lesson is learned. Thats been going on since we got her.

[ducpenguin]

she spends her nights in a crate.... and will litterally scratch at the door ALL night.... every night. She never gets tired from the scratching at the door, and the "nobody is going to come open the door, so I should just give up" lesson is learned. Thats been going on since we got her.

You should definitely put her in the crate during the daytime hours if no one is home...even if someone is home, try it for blocks of time.  This should help with the potty training.  I have found that letting have free roam and just letting them outside will not work.  Do you have multiple levels to you house?  If so, you can put her in the crate on another level while folks are there.  As time progresses, you can give her more and more space. 
As far as the nightime issue...where do the other dogs sleep?  There could be an issue with isolation.  You can also try to cover the crate with a blanket or towel. 
If she is a jumper...put your knee into her chest when she does it...not hard but with enough force for her to understand that she doesn't want to do that. 

[CDawg]

I don't have much to add, but this guy is pretty amazing on TV.  No FHE
http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/


and to you South Park fans, he was featured in Season 10:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103795/?autoplay=false

[madmax178]

Sounds like a case for Ceaser Milan

http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/

[TiNi]

If she is a jumper...put your knee into her chest when she does it...not hard but with enough force for her to understand that she doesn't want to do that. 

kneeing our dog was hard to do, but it worked...
we had to get physical with her, words were not enough  

[madmax178]

I don't have much to add, but this guy is pretty amazing on TV.  No FHE
http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/


and to you South Park fans, he was featured in Season 10:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103795/?autoplay=false

Stole my idea right as I was posting 

[Grampa]

we watch the Cesar to pick up tips.  

Annie and the other dogs are outside during the day. We have a gated dog run on the side of the house, and we alternate who stays in it, and who gets to roam the yard. The cats are inside the house during the day.

All three dogs get along if lm and the boys stay away, so they can be left alone during they day, but the two other dogs will not play or hang out with Annie at all. We seperate them during the day, just to be safe. As soon as I come home, I open up the back yard so they can mingle if they so choose. We just have to makw sure, lm and the boys stay out of the back yard while they are mingling.

[madmax178]

Bring in Ceaser on this one, apply for the show.  Make sure and get a duc in the background somewhere during filming.

[Grampa]

knee'n her does nothing.

last night, in an attempt to train and bring peace to the yard, I went outside and got Lily, as soon a I pick her up, Annie starts to attack, I knee'd her down, and at one point brushed her away with my foot, she hit the gate post with her head.... and it did nothing to stop her from wanting to go after lilly. The dog just will not stop when it gets it's mind set on something.

[Grampa]

Bring in Ceaser on this one, apply for the show.  Make sure and get a duc in the background somewhere during filming.

getting duc stuff in shots would be easy.... the house is swimming in it

one of our dogs is even named Desmo