Death Magnetic

[Rev. Millertime]

I don't really like much of their music after "And Justice for All"

The only later song I listen to is Fuel.

[vwboomer]

FIRE BAD!!!!

That being said, a coworker bought St Anger and I listened to it. On 1 listen, I thought that it was more like the old days musically, but vocally it was pussified. Guess that happens when you get older.
They've been around a long time and that's fine. HOpefully they aren't like the Stones and think they should hang around forever though. Whatever they come out with, I'll give it a chance, but I'm not going to go buy it to give it a chance.

It's not just Metallica though. There's a few bands that used to totally kick ass (IMO) but just don't have it anymore. Deftones spring to mind right away as a great example.

Oh, does anyone know what "fire bad" is related to or is it just me? lol

[factorPlayer]

well hey a metallica thread   
Let me roll my sleeves up here....

I think your post is interesting coming from a younger person.  Most of Metallica's core fan base are in their 30's and 40's now and are starting to disperse somewhat, so now they've got some newer young fans whose memories don't necessarily reach all the way back to Metallica's glory days of the 80's and early 90's. 

I'm 31 and my first metallica gig was in 94 - Easily one of my top 5 shows ever.  And I've been to a lot.  But for the last decade I haven't been able to take them seriously anymore.  I think they hit a heaviness peak with Justice, then gradually started diffusing their sound.  By the time Load came around I was out.  My tastes have sinced moved on to more traditional metal bands. 

I might give the new album a spin (figurative term these days, it will of course be downloaded) out of curiosity, but I'll be very surprised if I find anything meaningful in it.  The simple fact is the vast majority of bands have a peak and then decline.  When you are lean and hungry and have something to prove the good shit comes out.  To me they just aren't relative anymore...

[Mother]

whatever



you all suck

Metallica is teh rawk

old stuff good

black albumn of course good

load and reload good

I lost track of them at this point but managed to pay for a copy of garage days

liked it so much I went to two live shows in Portland back to back

absolutely LOVED it when they went accoustic halfway through

I enjoy that Metallica's music progressed as they matured

and that they went from a speed metal band to what they are now

and that James learned how to sing...as much as he can

I dig metallica, will always dig metallica, and all you bad mouthers can...just continue doing wht you do best...complaining

[metallimonster]

i loved everythign they did up to st anger.

when i dissapear came out (for mission impossible) i was put off, but stuck with them


the thing that annoys me just as much as the people that claim the band sold out because they cut their hair and because the black album exploded are the fanboys and fangirls who won't accept that they arent' as good as they used to be. i interact with these people regularly.

so go enjoy your precious and the rest of us will judge it how we see fit.

I hope you are not comparing me to one of these fanboy's, I may be younger compared to a lot of metallica fans but all I wanted for my 5th birthday was ...and Justice for All.  My dad was cool and listened to Kill em' ALL when I was in the womb and took me to my first show when I was 10.  It's not that I won't accept that they are as good as they used to be it is that I think the newer stuff is different but just as good.  Just because your taste doesn't change doesn't mean that mine can't.  So go ahead and judge it as you see fit but don't call me a fanboy just because I am younger than you. A lot of older fans gave up on Metallica just because they went main stream.  They felt like Metallica was there band and once the Black album came out they were upset they had to share them.  I say the more fans the better but your not a fan if you talk shit.  You don't have to like the new stuff just don't bash them for growing musicaly.  They grew and the rest of the genre didn't.  Tell me a band from that era and style that still sells records and headlines major tours, you probably can't name 2. Yes, I am a huge Metallica fan, obviously, but I love everything they do.  I like load and reload for the lyrics and the difference in melodies and rythms from the older stuff.  I'll be the first to say that St. Anger was dissapointing but don't tell me that Load and Reload are not heavy music.  Listen to King Nothing, Bleeding Me, Devil's Dance, and Bad Seed and then tell me that they are not heavy.  They just aren't heavy in the same way as Puppets or Harvester of Sorrow.  Don't get me wrong you'll see Puppets and Justice in my CD player just as much as the others, I listen to it all equally (less of St. Anger though).  I probably shouldn't have started this thread because it is making me frustrated but I figured most would be interested in a new album, especially one being produced by Rick Rueben.  That was supposed to be the point of the thread not, The Metallica is not as good as it used to be thread.  A lot of bands were in the same postition as Metallica is now and Rick Rueben came in and revamped their career's.  Johnny Cash would be a great example.  So I guess we'll see in late September if they can still rock out like they used to.  And I'll say it one more time if you think they are not as good as they used to be go see them live and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

By the way,  you make the beast with two backsing rock Mother

[Monsterlover]

whatever



you all suck

Metallica is teh rawk

old stuff good

black albumn of course good

load and reload good

I lost track of them at this point but managed to pay for a copy of garage days

liked it so much I went to two live shows in Portland back to back

absolutely LOVED it when they went accoustic halfway through

I enjoy that Metallica's music progressed as they matured

and that they went from a speed metal band to what they are now

and that James learned how to sing...as much as he can

I dig metallica, will always dig metallica, and all you bad mouthers can...just continue doing wht you do best...complaining

Fine.

We will.



After the Black, suck-fest began.  I do like them a lot.  I hope the new album can reverse suck-fest.

[Rev. Millertime]

I'm not going to say they suck after "And justice for all"...   I just don't like the evolution.

I guess I'm just an old school heavy metal junkie. 

F**k it... I'm going to get out my Ride the Lightning cd and piss off the neighbors!

[Rev. Millertime]

Obey your master!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Oga-yj7IpEw

[ODrides]

I became a fan because of the black album.  Saw them live with GnR -- James was recovering from the pyro burn.  They obviously have some great "heavy" shit, but their best stuff - IMO - is not the really heavy stuff.  "No Leaf Clover" from S&M is one of the best songs ever.  Everyone should check out S&M.  So good.

It's too bad the band became the fall guy for Napster, but they really helped save the music industry from illegal downloads.  It's the same thing TV writers just went through, except instead of the mean studio bosses stealing from the artists it was the general public.

[metallimonster]

Well put ODrides,  No Leaf Clover is in my top 5 favourite Met songs,  I listen to S&M probably more than any other album. 

They did take the fall and what the public doesn't know is that Dr. Dre, Eminem, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, and a lot of other big name groups were on the same litigation.  Lars just had enough balls and is enough of a prick to stand up for what he believed in.  I myself don't do any type of illegal downloading and it is not  because Metallica doesn't like it.  I believe that the artists, actors and anyone else puts their heart and sole into their art and deserve compensation for it.  I know that they make a whole lot of money but it is stealing no matter which way you look at it.  I wouldn't want people I didn't know to take money right off of my pay check and I don't think anyone else would either.

[SKOM]

It's too bad the band became the fall guy for Napster, but they really helped save the music industry from illegal downloads.  It's the same thing TV writers just went through, except instead of the mean studio bosses stealing from the artists it was the general public.

Ouch. That hurts because it's kind of true. Remember people were also stealing from the recording companies.
The whole file sharing scene did manage to bring album prices to a more reasonable level. Remember paying 21+ dollars for a CD (i grew up in Canada)?  I do. After the artists and/or record companies were stealing from us for so long it was nice to get some payback.

That said I prefer to buy my music because I am lazy and can't be bothered to deal with trying to download the shit. And I will happily pay for the Metallica album (provided there are guitar solos.

[metallimonster]

SKOM,

There will be solos,  go to mission metallica and watch some of the videos you'll find solos there.

[SKOM]

My home computer is fuct and they block every good website at work. (except this one thank jebus)
I'll have to take your word for it.

[KnightofNi]

I hope you are not comparing me to one of these fanboy's, I may be younger compared to a lot of metallica fans but all I wanted for my 5th birthday was ...and Justice for All.  My dad was cool and listened to Kill em' ALL when I was in the womb and took me to my first show when I was 10.  It's not that I won't accept that they are as good as they used to be it is that I think the newer stuff is different but just as good.  Just because your taste doesn't change doesn't mean that mine can't.  So go ahead and judge it as you see fit but don't call me a fanboy just because I am younger than you. A lot of older fans gave up on Metallica just because they went main stream.  They felt like Metallica was there band and once the Black album came out they were upset they had to share them.  I say the more fans the better but your not a fan if you talk shit.  You don't have to like the new stuff just don't bash them for growing musicaly.  They grew and the rest of the genre didn't.  Tell me a band from that era and style that still sells records and headlines major tours, you probably can't name 2. Yes, I am a huge Metallica fan, obviously, but I love everything they do.  I like load and reload for the lyrics and the difference in melodies and rythms from the older stuff.  I'll be the first to say that St. Anger was dissapointing but don't tell me that Load and Reload are not heavy music.  Listen to King Nothing, Bleeding Me, Devil's Dance, and Bad Seed and then tell me that they are not heavy.  They just aren't heavy in the same way as Puppets or Harvester of Sorrow.  Don't get me wrong you'll see Puppets and Justice in my CD player just as much as the others, I listen to it all equally (less of St. Anger though).  I probably shouldn't have started this thread because it is making me frustrated but I figured most would be interested in a new album, especially one being produced by Rick Rueben.  That was supposed to be the point of the thread not, The Metallica is not as good as it used to be thread.  A lot of bands were in the same postition as Metallica is now and Rick Rueben came in and revamped their career's.  Johnny Cash would be a great example.  So I guess we'll see in late September if they can still rock out like they used to.  And I'll say it one more time if you think they are not as good as they used to be go see them live and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

By the way,  you make the beast with two backsing rock Mother

i never said i disliked everything after a certain point. i said i disliked st anger, and the band has gone in a direction i don't like as much. i actually didn't start listening to them until the black album (i grew up in a very religious household)

i even said that if another band put out any of their albums it would be one of their greatest albums, but for metallica it wasn't as good as the rest of it. i actually own every metallica album. (lighting and garge days are my favorites) I have, in general, found something on each album that i enjoy. most often i enjoy all of it on some level. i just really miss the thrash, the black alum and after are definately not thrash. they are heavy, but it's not thrash. if they can bring that back it would be great, but i'm not holding out hope for them.

as far as rick reuben producing it, i'm not particularly excited. he might have helped revamp a few careers, but unless i get something closer to kill 'em all or lighting, i know i'm not going to enjoy it. the fact that such a big deal is being made about the producer of their album, not the musicians, isn't a good sign either.


you asked for bands that are still headlining...
slayer - and their sound hasn't changed much at all
testament
megadeth (though i can't stand mustaine's voice. also, he needs to get back on the smack and stop going to church. the "remastering" sucked balls)
iron maiden has become more of a household name again.
dream theater is constantly on tour. even if it is prog (and no, i can't stand them)


also, being a fanboy/fangirl has nothing to do with your age. it has to do with how the level of logic goes down when speaking about the object of your fanboyness. it also has a lot to do with the whole music snob mentality. elitists annoy me. people that say i can't be a fan because of whatever reason they choose, or that i can't possibly be as good of a fan as they are make me do things like show up wearing kakhis and a polo shirt just to challenge their ideas of non-conformity.

[metallimonster]

I under stand now what you meant by fanboy, sorry I took it the wrong way.  Those kind of people annoy me too.  I would like everyone to enjoy the music.

Those bands may still be headlining tours but in no way to they sell as much and do bigger tour than Metallica.  That is what I meant.  Metallica is still relevant and main stream and those bands are not.

Metallica is still the number 1 band played on any rock radio station.