16 year old + R1 = no good

Started by Vindingo, July 29, 2008, 12:24:53 AM

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Grampa

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I'm Mr Poopy Pants..... hear me roar.

Not everybody can be saved.

I survived lawn darts

I survived pools without fences

I survived 5 gallon buckets without warning lables printed on them.

I survived a couple car accidents

I survived a couple bike accidents

I survived BB gun fights

I survived sling shot wars

I survived no seatbelts in my moms station wagon.

I've been lucky. Sometimes people arent so lucky.

Most of us who ride.... are a lil hard headed and have a difficult time being told "no". We take risks. The kid took a risk and his luck ran out. Unless the salesman held a gun to his head and told him he had to buy it, it aint his fault. Same goes for the kids parents.

Is it a waste of life...maybe. I'm sure his family thinks so. But.... maybe the kid was a thief. Maybe the kid did drugs. The spectrum of "what if" needs to include the bad with the good.

I would like to think, that for every person who is harmed riding a bike in such a way that it causes people to point and say... "murdercycle".... there are a thousand who are having fun and who represent the sport in a positive light.

I sick of the nannystate.
Gaspar, Melchior and Balthasar kicked me out of the band..... they said I didnt fit the image they were trying to project. 

So I went solo.  -Me

Some people call 911..... some people are 911
-Marcus Luttrell

ryandalling

Quote from: bobspapa on July 29, 2008, 08:15:42 AM
I sick of the nannystate.

[thumbsup]  + 11'ty billion.

Why do people have to legislate intelligence into us?
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erik822

Quote from: bobspapa on July 29, 2008, 08:15:42 AM

Is it a waste of life...maybe. I'm sure his family thinks so. But.... maybe the kid was a thief. Maybe the kid did drugs. The spectrum of "what if" needs to include the bad with the good.

Even if the "what if" is bad, that doesn't make this any less a waste of life. Kids do stupid things. It's part of growing up. Absolutely it's a waste of life. What a ridiculous thing to say. Everyone who dies young is a waste of life. Many of the decent people I knew in high school are complete drains on society now and many of the losers have stepped up and done good. Whether he was wasting his life on drugs or as a teenage thief doesn't make this any less a waste of life.

On a more upbeat note, did anyone else notice that the motorcycle photo next to the article was an Harley-Davidson springer softtail? I would LOVE to see someone do a stoppie on that. 
Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.

SKOM

Kids are dumb. That's why they need parents.

But sometimes parents are dumb too. That's why we need laws to protect the kids and the general public.

That's why there is a legal age for drinking, driving, gun ownership. If we left it up just to the parents there would be alot more drunk kids driving around shooting at shit. If I was given given an R1 at 16 I would not be alive today. Thank jebus I had smart parents.

Call it the nanny state. Call it whatever you want. Graduated licensing for motorcycles (and cars for that matter) is a good idea imo.   :-\
"Die gefährlichste Weltanschauung ist die Weltanschauung derer, die die Welt nie angeschaut haben."
â€" Alexander Von Humboldt

Grampa

Quote from: erik822 on July 29, 2008, 08:47:41 AM
Even if the "what if" is bad, that doesn't make this any less a waste of life. Kids do stupid things. It's part of growing up. Absolutely it's a waste of life. What a ridiculous thing to say. Everyone who dies young is a waste of life. Many of the decent people I knew in high school are complete drains on society now and many of the losers have stepped up and done good. Whether he was wasting his life on drugs or as a teenage thief doesn't make this any less a waste of life.

On a more upbeat note, did anyone else notice that the motorcycle photo next to the article was an Harley-Davidson springer softtail? I would LOVE to see someone do a stoppie on that. 

so..... if a kid, hopped up on drugs driving a stolen car kills your mom...... I'd say it's more of a waste having mom gone (assuming your mom is a good human  ;) )

a few months ago..... four kids.... ages 13 - 15, beat an 84 year old man to death..... just cuz.
you wanna babysit one of them and wait a few years to see "if" they turn it around? I dont. I want them gone.

Gaspar, Melchior and Balthasar kicked me out of the band..... they said I didnt fit the image they were trying to project. 

So I went solo.  -Me

Some people call 911..... some people are 911
-Marcus Luttrell

Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: bobspapa on July 29, 2008, 09:02:05 AM
so..... if a kid, hopped up on drugs driving a stolen car kills your mom...... I'd say it's more of a waste having mom gone (assuming your mom is a good human  ;) )

a few months ago..... four kids.... ages 13 - 15, beat an 84 year old man to death..... just cuz.
you wanna babysit one of them and wait a few years to see "if" they turn it around? I dont. I want them gone.



Weren't you nothing but trouble when you were younger?  ???
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

Grampa

Quote from: someguy on July 29, 2008, 09:09:51 AM
Weren't you nothing but trouble when you were younger?  ???

I was a huge pain in the ass..... but I never beat anybody to death.

Gaspar, Melchior and Balthasar kicked me out of the band..... they said I didnt fit the image they were trying to project. 

So I went solo.  -Me

Some people call 911..... some people are 911
-Marcus Luttrell

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Pakhan

I had my share of mishaps as a kid, but not anything like this at 16.  no license, no bike, no one stupid enough to buy me an R1, and parents that made sure I wasn't doing anything too stupid.  I feel more for the loss of a good bike than I do this kid.  Kid didn't think, parents didn't think, oh well this is what could and did happen.  Shame but no tragedy.


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Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: bobspapa on July 29, 2008, 09:13:27 AM
I was a huge pain in the ass..... but I never beat anybody to death.



Nope...but I'm guessing more'n a few people tried to help you "turn it around", no?
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

Grampa

Quote from: SKOM on July 29, 2008, 08:59:57 AM
Kids are dumb. That's why they need parents.

But sometimes parents are dumb too. That's why we need laws to protect the kids and the general public.

That's why there is a legal age for drinking, driving, gun ownership. If we left it up just to the parents there would be alot more drunk kids driving around shooting at shit. If I was given given an R1 at 16 I would not be alive today. Thank jebus I had smart parents.

Call it the nanny state. Call it whatever you want. Graduated licensing for motorcycles (and cars for that matter) is a good idea imo.   :-\

being a good parent is all relative. Britneys mom thinks she's a good parent.

and even if you are a good parent, its not a given that your kids are going to turn out good.

I'm all for proper licensing, and more hoops to jump through. But we as humans will make the beast with two backs all that training up, by...

demanding cars have cup holders

having bluetooth helmets

putting tvs in cars

relying on gps to do your thinking for you

installing stereos that make people deaf

mods that decrease handling

etc etc
Gaspar, Melchior and Balthasar kicked me out of the band..... they said I didnt fit the image they were trying to project. 

So I went solo.  -Me

Some people call 911..... some people are 911
-Marcus Luttrell

Grampa

Gaspar, Melchior and Balthasar kicked me out of the band..... they said I didnt fit the image they were trying to project. 

So I went solo.  -Me

Some people call 911..... some people are 911
-Marcus Luttrell