can some owners of this bike tell me a little bit about it?
the good bad and ugly of this machine
thank you
Bek
I have an S model myself but all types are here.
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=77 (http://www.ducati.ms/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=77)
This is quite an active owners forum and has a lot of info.
I've had a 2006 monoposto since April. It was a leftover floor model and I got a smooooookin' deal on it.
I put a little over 7000 miles on it over the summer.
What specifically do you want to know?
I've also got an '06 Mono. Fabulous bike and has TONS of character. The link to Ducati.ms is a good source of info. The riding position can be a bit brutal at first, but you'll warm up to it just like almost anything else.
thinking about trading my 749 dark for an 06 black with white strpie and termis
even trade
If you need them, Ducati offers (new?) clip ons with rise http://www.ducati.com/shop/product.jsp?catid=cat1060102&prodid=96752506B
One vote for the trade [thumbsup]
I've got an '06, it was the second Back in Black that Advanced Motorsport created. The first one that was featured in the Jan. 2007 Motorcyclist magazine went to Ducati North America. Mine has the Ohlins treatment front and rear, Termi slip ons, the AMS/Back in Black paint job (that Ducati knocked off to make their 100 numbered "specials"), Storz Performance steering damper, CarbonFiberMan front fender, fork protectors and rear hugger, Evoluzione tail/license plate kit (no longer offered) and other stuff. The '06 models are special, not so much super valuable or collectable, because they (and the Paul Smarts) had the solo shock and sculpted s/arm for that year only.
Sounds like an interesting trade. The "skunk" bikes are my favorite of the colors that were offered. Can you get a decent test ride on it before you committ. They are such different rides... completely different. Curious, how many miles on the two bikes? Do you know the owner of the bike and it's service history? They don't have any real issues that I have heard of. Basic DS1000 engine, jeez they are bullet proof. Not a lot of aftermarket stuff due to limited sales. Lots of folks picked theirs up from dealers as left overs for a good deal. Also, dealers often installed the taller "comfort" bars and Termi slip ons and offered them as a package deal to help move them. Worked for a lot of folks.
I have the taller bars and the DP comfort seat. Big difference, very nice comfort improvement, well worth the $$$. [thumbsup] I'll keep an eye peeled on the thread to see what happens. Good luck!! [wine]
fastwin
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on January 11, 2009, 01:50:41 PM
thinking about trading my 749 dark for an 06 black with white strpie and termis
even trade
Why? Does the 749 just not do it for you anymore? The Sport is fun and all, less maintenance too but.........
Having never ridden a 749, I can't really offer any FHE as to the differences, but I can make some basic comparisons.
The position will probably be similar, so that's not so much a worry.
The two biggest differences you're likely to notice are the engine (duh [cheeky]) and the brakes.The '06 SC has the same 1000DS as the S2R1000 with the 8,500 RPM redline, as opposed to the 10,500 RPM available on a 749. On the highway, I'm usually putting along comfortably at about 4,500 RPM in 4th and doing a comfortable 70-75. Roll on the throttle and it'll break 100 before I have to shift, and it sounds absolutely evil anywhere above 6,000. [evil] I have yet to find a legal use for 5th or 6th gears. I'm guessing they're actually just spares in case I wear out 1st or 2nd.
The brakes, while definitely adequate with correct pads that have been properly bedded, are much less enthusiastic than those of the 749. Again, just something to keep in mind. They're not the same as the S2R800 2-pistons; they're actually larger. If you decide to switch out wheels you can upgrade the brakes to whatever you like.
I love mine and wouldn't trade it for anything. Dynoed at just over 80 hp bone-stock. With the Termi's and an ECU you're probably looking at 90-ish hp. And of course the Termi's sound "like god having an orgasm."
If you're okay taking a moderate decrease in at-the-limit performance, and in return getting an absolute head-turner that'll cost you less to maintain, I think you'll be perfectly happy.
Oh, and a big +1 on the comfort seat. HUGE improvement.
Quote from: Obsessed? on January 11, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
Having never ridden a 749, I can't really offer any FHE as to the differences, but I can make some basic comparisons.
The position will probably be similar, so that's not so much a worry.
The two biggest differences you're likely to notice are the engine (duh [cheeky]) and the brakes.The '06 SC has the same 1000DS as the S2R1000 with the 8,500 RPM redline, as opposed to the 10,500 RPM available on a 749. On the highway, I'm usually putting along comfortably at about 4,500 RPM in 4th and doing a comfortable 70-75. Roll on the throttle and it'll break 100 before I have to shift, and it sounds absolutely evil anywhere above 6,000. [evil] I have yet to find a legal use for 5th or 6th gears. I'm guessing they're actually just spares in case I wear out 1st or 2nd.
The brakes, while definitely adequate with correct pads that have been properly bedded, are much less enthusiastic than those of the 749. Again, just something to keep in mind. They're not the same as the S2R800 2-pistons; they're actually larger. If you decide to switch out wheels you can upgrade the brakes to whatever you like.
I love mine and wouldn't trade it for anything. Dynoed at just over 80 hp bone-stock. With the Termi's and an ECU you're probably looking at 90-ish hp. And of course the Termi's sound "like god having an orgasm."
If you're okay taking a moderate decrease in at-the-limit performance, and in return getting an absolute head-turner that'll cost you less to maintain, I think you'll be perfectly happy.
Oh, and a big +1 on the comfort seat. HUGE improvement.
yea I love the bikes character...
mine has 4000 miles
his has 1900 miles
Seriously, the most common question I get is "What year is that?"
I can't stop for gas without someone staring at it.
I'll come out of a restaurant or something and find people giving it the walk-around.
Puts a smile on my face. Every. Time.
Quote from: Obsessed? on January 11, 2009, 03:36:18 PM
Seriously, the most common question I get is "What year is that?"
I can't stop for gas without someone staring at it.
I'll come out of a restaurant or something and find people giving it the walk-around.
Puts a smile on my face. Every. Time.
yea its different that is why I really like it.
its got character and a timeless look....
what to do what to do lol
I agree with everything said so far. They have timeless looks and character out the wazoo. Don't get the "what year?" question that much but I get a lot of "what is it?". [clap] And they mean it in a nice way. Brakes could be a lot better and he's right about changing the wheels allows the use of different (better) calipers... but why would you change the wheels?? They are part of "the look". I have heard where some upgraded calipers can be used but there is a trip to the milling machine first to gain some caliper-wheel/spoke clearance. Too much trouble for me. If I want to haul ass that fast I'll ride my Hayabusa, 999 or RC51.
Sounds like the mileage is great. Less than 2K means it's just nicely broken in. Again, do you know the owner and can you get a nice test ride on it? There is nothing like the sound of the two valve air cooled Ducatis with Termis or Arrows. As we all know they kick ass! I have a full Termi system on the 999 and there is no comparison, not even close. My RC51 with Sato pipes is a very close second but we are talking Ducatis here. [thumbsup]
If you are looking for something completely different and want a change from the 4 valve water pumper and if the bike is really clean then I would do it. Why not?
Quote from: Obsessed? on January 11, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
And of course the Termi's sound "like god having an orgasm."
Which system does yours have? I've got the two-one Termi's and mine sounds a bit more like God is pissed at the air around you.
Quote from: fastwin on January 11, 2009, 04:45:13 PM
but why would you change the wheels?? They are part of "the look".
While the spoked wheels do really look the business, they are heavy as all hell. I am in the process of putting BSTs on mine and damn they make a huge difference. A little over eight pounds on the front wheel set-up alone.
I have never ridden a 749, but I did spend a little time on a friends 999. One thing I will say is that the 999 was a good bit more comfy that the Sport. Plus, the fairing really shielded you from the wind. Anything over 95-100 gets really interesting with all the buffeting that you will get on the Sport. Having said that though, I absolutely LOVE my Sport1000.
Yeah, I read your thread about the BSTs and the problem with fitting the front. Hope that all works out OK. Does it get any better than BSTs??? [bow_down] Don't think so. To each their own... I like the spoke look no matter the weight but I bet it would look awesome with BSTs!!!!
Quote from: DRKWNG on January 11, 2009, 05:42:25 PM
Which system does yours have? I've got the two-one Termi's and mine sounds a bit more like God is pissed at the air around you.
When I put mine away for the winter it still had the stock pipes. That situation will be remedied before spring. I was quoting Spidey. (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14798.msg256609#msg256609)
I'm curious to see what kind of Boom Tubes Moto Creations comes up with for the Sport 1000.
Worst case scenario, I've been thinking about just pulling the cans off and fabing up some mild baffles for the header pipe.
Quote from: fastwin on January 11, 2009, 05:49:16 PM
I like the spoke look no matter the weight but I bet it would look awesome with BSTs!!!!
As do I. I was a bit reluctant to go with the five-spoke BSTs (nah, didn't have a damn thing to do with the cost) simply because the spokes look so good on these bikes. So I found myself looking at the Alpina wheels and wondered why the hell I would spend so much money on them (about $2800 for the set) when you got so little in the way of performance returns.
Oh well, sure hope that I can get this issue sorted with the front before I deploy...
Uhmm, pics. [popcorn]
+1. Let's see that Back in Black Sport Classic and the one with BST's.
Issues: I don't own a camera. It looks like any of the Ducati "numbered" specials, mine just has a different story. But I damn sure would love to see DRKWNG's scoot with the BSTs. Again, hope the logistics work out and you can get a replacement workable front wheel before too long. Hope you own a camera too. [laugh]
Does this work? It was taken by a friend at an AMS shop party.
http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x2/notacop01/?action=view¤t=PICT0040.jpg (http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x2/notacop01/?action=view¤t=PICT0040.jpg)
Forgot to mention the SpeedyMoto pressure plate and 5 spoke cover and the carbon fiber belt covers. Not that that makes it run any better...
Next time tell him to move up about 15ft. ;D
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/classic.jpg)
Good point. Hard to complain when you don't own a camera. [laugh]
PS That pic was before the carbon fiber front fender, fork protectors and hugger. Also the steering damper hadn't arrived yet. It runs so much faster now with all that stuff on it. [laugh] [cheeky] [roll]
Quote from: fastwin on January 11, 2009, 07:13:29 PM
But I damn sure would love to see DRKWNG's scoot with the BSTs.
Ask and you shall receive. Well, sort of. Got the rear wheel on, but still the stock spoked jobbie on the front until BST can get me a wheel with the correct spacing...
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0026.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0027.jpg)
Quote from: DRKWNG on January 12, 2009, 12:20:04 AM
Ask and you shall receive. Well, sort of. Got the rear wheel on, but still the stock spoked jobbie on the front until BST can get me a wheel with the correct spacing...
Maybe these guys can help:
http://www.ncrstore.com:8080/ncr/control/category/~category_id=CerchiNewBlue/~pcategory=Sport1000Mono (http://www.ncrstore.com:8080/ncr/control/category/~category_id=CerchiNewBlue/~pcategory=Sport1000Mono)
Sweeeettt!!! Where did you get the rear hugger? Not many of those around. I've considered going to a two into one pipe. Love that look on your scooter. [thumbsup] Just to be different I've considered going with the Arrow 2-1 and having it ceramic coated black. Dangerous thoughts. :P
Anyway, end of thread jack. I think the point of all this is we all think you should do the trade. These are neat bikes for sure. [clap]
Quote from: howie on January 12, 2009, 04:06:19 AM
Maybe these guys can help:
Thanks for that. I do not/did not want to go through NCR because they have the exact same wheel but for quite a bit more money than they can be found for through other channels. The place that I got mine from are very reputable when it comes to these wheels, but it just seems that BST sent out a batch that did not have the correct spacers included.
Quote from: fastwin on January 12, 2009, 06:40:10 AM
Sweeeettt!!! Where did you get the rear hugger? Not many of those around.
I got the hugger from a guy on Ducati.ms. It's from Clay Composites (www.carbonfiberman.com (http://www.carbonfiberman.com)) and seems to do the job nicely. The only small complaint I have with it is that the chain guard portion of it is a bit longer than the aluminium DP version that was on the bike previously.
Quote from: fastwin on January 12, 2009, 06:40:10 AM
Just to be different I've considered going with the Arrow 2-1 and having it ceramic coated black. Dangerous thoughts. :P
Which colour is yours? There is a guy over on Ducati.ms that was a PS with the Zard full system that was been ceramic coated black. Now that bike looks HOT!
Quote from: Obsessed? on January 11, 2009, 05:51:29 PM
I'm curious to see what kind of Boom Tubes Moto Creations comes up with for the Sport 1000.
Greg (the guy that makes the WASP steering damper kits) but an exbox on his for a while. Looked nice in the way that it free'd up the rear end, and he swore it sounded tits, but I kind of like the megaphone look on these bikes better. But that's just my own personal opinion.
ok well im close to closing the deal...
swapping my 2005 749 dark for a 2006 sport classic black with white stripe/termi slip ons
Congrats!!!
Quote from: Obsessed? on January 11, 2009, 08:14:56 AM
I've had a 2006 monoposto since April. It was a leftover floor model and I got a smooooookin' deal on it.
I put a little over 7000 miles on it over the summer.
What specifically do you want to know?
hows the power? is it noticeably more powerful then say a ducati 695?
what kind of issues are they known to have?
thank you
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on January 12, 2009, 05:26:11 PM
hows the power? is it noticeably more powerful then say a ducati 695?
what kind of issues are they known to have?
thank you
The torque is pretty much obscene. With stock gearing, it'll power wheelie in first ([evil]) and I'm pretty sure it'd do it in second if I weren't so fat. It just
PULLS.
The biggest issue that I know of is that it has the DS1000 engine with the O2 sensor, so it tends to "lurch" under 4,000 RPM as the computer tries to figure out what the hell its doing in closed loop. A good tech should be able to adjust that so its not at an RPM you'll be using (e.g it'll lurch when trying to hold a steady 2,500 RPM, but you're never going to be using it on the road at that engine speed, so its not an issue.) The DP ECU fixes this, of course. Also, having Monstermash re-flash your ECU to DP specs should fix it for good.
Another option is the FatDuc O2 Manipulator (http://www.fatduc.com/). It plugs in-line with your O2 sensor and gives your ECU a different reading eliminating the problem. Its an $85 one-time fix and I've heard nothing but good things about them.
Like all Ducatis, they run a bit lean from the factory and have an unsightly charcoal canister and reflectors. All remediable.
Otherwise, the biggest problem is that they're Ducatis. The mods are
never done. ;)
Quote from: Obsessed? on January 12, 2009, 05:48:03 PM
It just PULLS.
No better way to say it. Mine has been re-geared to 14/40 and the thing is like a frickin' freight train!! I'm almost afraid to see how wheelie happy it's going to be once I get the BST on the front...
Quote from: DRKWNG on January 12, 2009, 07:24:38 PM
No better way to say it. Mine has been re-geared to 14/40 and the thing is like a frickin' freight train!! I'm almost afraid to see how wheelie happy it's going to be once I get the BST on the front...
Have I mentioned that I hate you?
Quote from: Obsessed? on January 12, 2009, 07:25:50 PM
Have I mentioned that I hate you?
Just a few times. But please take solace in the fact that I will have to get my tank replaced under warranty in order to mount the WASP TMSD that came in the mail. [cheeky]
You'll have to let me know how that works out.
Its on the "short list."
But seeing as how its pertinent to this thread, what happened to your tank?
The ever-present condition of the tank swelling. There is something (discussed over fifty kagillion times on ducati.ms) to do with the plastic tanks on these bikes that cause them to swell over time. A lot of folk attest it to the ethanol in our fuel, but no one is certain as to exactly what causes it. One way to tell if/when yours is effected is to grab the tank at the side/bottom and give it a gentle tug upwards. If there is significant play in it then the tank has swollen and is starting to come free of the retaining brackets on the front.
mine seems to be effected more on the right side than the left. I took these pics to send to Greg (WASP) to see what he thought of the mounting tolerances for the TMSD. These were taken at full right lock:
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/switchclearance.jpg)
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/forktubeclearance.jpg)
That's "affected" rather than "effected". Get it straight will you. Dang. Just so you know. ;D ;D
Not that I'm the grammar Nazi but still ......
Sorry Adolf. I seem to still spell a few things in English, and not American. [cheeky]
should i do it im on the verge...
am i gonna regret trading , should i should i?? help
Quote from: fastwin on January 12, 2009, 06:40:10 AM
Anyway, end of thread jack. I think the point of all this is we all think you should do the trade. These are neat bikes for sure. [clap]
My feelings have been stated. [laugh]
bike has new tires, steering damp, new gas tank replaced by dealer (old one had that weird issue)
termi slip ons, 14 t sporcket
Do it! You'll thank us later. [moto]
Get one.
The SC1000 is one of my favorite bikes. We added Marchesini 10 spoke wheels and a ZARD exhaust on our project bike.The ZARD exhaust really gives it a lot of bottom end when it is tuned right. The wheels transformed the bike.
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/Motowheels%20Sport%20Classic/DSC05489.jpg)
-M
wow thats fkin sick [evil]
Quote from: moto on January 19, 2009, 10:49:13 PM
Get one.
The SC1000 is one of my favorite bikes. We added Marchesini 10 spoke wheels and a ZARD exhaust on our project bike.The ZARD exhaust really gives it a lot of bottom end when it is tuned right. The wheels transformed the bike.
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/Motowheels%20Sport%20Classic/DSC05489.jpg)
-M
That bike is amazing. I think it (or something like it) is going to end up on my "must have before I die" list.
I know the wire spokes are supposed to give that retro look, but the bike looks so much better with cast wheels
I like the looks and everything about the SC1000 until I sat on it. The seat/seat pan don't agree with the shape of my legs & ass.
JM
I'll take 1, please.
With the Zard pipes, and lightweight wheels.
I LOVE the swingarm.
Well, Beck, didja do it?
im pissed the kid I think ended up selling the bike instead, I was all ready to drive down as well, waiting for final word from him
Sucks, man, guess you can keep a lookout for one.
There was another yellow one (kind of like mine) for sale back home a few weeks ago. He was asking $8500 for it, but has had it posted off and on for a while. I'm sure he would flex on the price some. Only problem is that it costs a pretty penny to ship it.
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on January 27, 2009, 12:33:11 PM
im pissed the kid I think ended up selling the bike instead, I was all ready to drive down as well, waiting for final word from him
bek,
sorry to hear that. i was torn between the red sport classic 1000 or s2r 1000, of course i got the monster but i always wonder whenever i see one of them.
btw, when are you back in nyc?
ted