(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9979/58870865vf8.jpg)
like dislike? centered? eyes too big? mouth to small? yellow not yellow enough? (thats max yellow unless it should be more gold) now is a good time to comment. Still waiting for the reply email about final pricing. once i get that ill post up, and start a tally list and get final numbers! Check this thread for updates!
The size of these sitckers is ~14 inches long and a bit over 5 inches tall. So check your visor!
WHOS EXCITED!!!!! [evil]
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9979/58870865vf8.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9979/58870865vf8.jpg) heres the link so you can zoom in.
No image on your post or link.
I checked it with another computer, i think it might be your broswer? its a rather large file, so it might be loading.
I'm in for 2. Payment might take a bit for me to sort out (as I have no working paypal). But, I am in for 2
Hey, could they be sold out of the DMF store? Maybe with a small DMF logo in the corner?
Quote from: slowpoke13 on February 09, 2009, 09:43:19 PM
I'm in for 2. Payment might take a bit for me to sort out (as I have no working paypal). But, I am in for 2
Hey, could they be sold out of the DMF store? Maybe with a small DMF logo in the corner?
i like that idea! I would have to contact the person responsible for the store. if that were the case, then the DMF owners would need to buy some to keep in stock. not sure what the situation is over there...and who i would have to talk to about that.
WHat is the census on having a DMF logo on the corner? Would be cool, but maybe some people are gonna rep this on some other bikes or give it to a friend who arent DMFers???
I would have no problem reping DMF elsewhere, but it seems like it would be a bit out of place on a visor.
As I said in the other thread, count me in for one. I can pay via PayPal.
I would take a couple that had the DMF logo (in black/yellow) for eyes. Or even just small (read: dime-nickle size) logo all the way on the side, maybe in the top corner.
I'd even pay a markup for them to be kept in the store. As long as the proceeds went to the DMF (which, I assume they would).
Can I suggest - with all due respect to our designer - that the yellow is a little too bright
A few Aussies would be up for it methinks. :D
Can't see the image here either. I've tried in two browsers (Chrome & IE).
I want one though (I think).
me no see
OMG...... I'm blind 8)
if the manufacturer gives you a template, and needs it done as vector graphic/eps or anything, let me know and i can handle it.
I can see the image, and I like it - I think the design looks really nice! You might want to experiment with adding a little more "gold" to the yellow color -- got any Legos to compare it to? ;D
I would prefer not to have a DMF logo anywhere on the Lego faceshield. Maybe the DMF store could offer some simple round helmet stickers using the website's header logo.
IMO, adding the DMF logo anywhere on the Lego shield sticker is a mistake.
i agree with bluemoco about the dmf logo. as much as i love my duc and the dmf, i would feel weird riding my ktm or my scooter with a sticker/logo that is for the dmf.
and what about getting this little guys face done instead? mr unamused himself.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/struhall/forum/unamused.jpg)
from what ive heard, it started on the nasioc forum, but i like it and think it would be great to have.
I'm in for 1. Post up when you've got the shipping figured.
Quote from: bluemoco on February 10, 2009, 08:47:57 AM
I can see the image, and I like it - I think the design looks really nice! You might want to experiment with adding a little more "gold" to the yellow color -- got any Legos to compare it to? ;D
A agree here, a bit more gold might be a better color ~
JM
Some questions:
1) Would everyone rather a precut shaped? Or would people be okay with a square shape so you can trim to fit your faceshield?
2) I have a local member wanting to do this for us, and I would love to keep it inside the DMF...and he has suggested using highly reflective vinyl to increase our visability! Brilliant! Objections?
Actually i used Photoshop and took an image of a lego mans head, then used the dropper to collect the color...ill try to add more gold and post up.
for everyone else, try right clinking the direct link and save to desktop then open it. should work that way!
I think you could widen the smile a bit. He doesn't seem very happy. ;D
I think the square cut would be best. That way everyone can tailor it to their own face shield.
And no objection on the reflective vinyl.
I'm in for 1 maybe 2 depending on the cost.
Square is probably best.
Yes, too yellow, needs to be a little more gold.
More this color...
(http://www.toltoys.com/uploaded_images/legofront.jpeg-732238.jpg)
Quote from: He Man on February 09, 2009, 08:34:22 PM
like dislike? centered? eyes too big? mouth to small? yellow not yellow enough? (thats max yellow unless it should be more gold) now is a good time to comment. Still waiting for the reply email about final pricing. once i get that ill post up, and start a tally list and get final numbers! Check this thread for updates!
The size of these sitckers is ~14 inches long and a bit over 5 inches tall. So check your visor!
I think the Hue value is too high, and the Red Value is too low for the yellow as is.
(Yours on right, more yellow one on left)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj289/stephenr216/colors.jpg)
Quote from: Obsessed? on February 10, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
I think the square cut would be best. That way everyone can tailor it to their own face shield.
And no objection on the reflective vinyl.
+1. Square, with yellow bled fully to the edge, so that we can cut our own, for best visor fit.
Are we talking 3M retroreflective vinyl or similar? That'll look freaky at night, especially assuming that the eyes and mouth are not reflective! +1 for that, too.
I like the reflective vinyl idea ~
JM
On the reflective vinyl type stuff, is it still the same sort of vinyl originally suggested, the stuff you can see through? The one with the perforations?
i dont know what the hell ended up with my post..but here it goes again...
It is not the vinyl that you see through, its the "preforation" though really, its just thousands of dots that make up a composite image.
wait, is this for the helmet face shield or the fairing wind screen?
face shield.
not sure what the brand the reflective vinyl is, but yes it should be similar to the 3m reflective vinyl.
Quote from: sroberts152 on February 10, 2009, 11:01:32 AM(http://www.toltoys.com/uploaded_images/legofront.jpeg-732238.jpg)
Lego Blagojevich strikes again.
One question - will I be able to see through it?
Yep, you can put me down for 1. I think square would be best, to many visor options to ensure perfect fit for all.
Quote from: jasaretta on February 10, 2009, 05:08:55 PM
One question - will I be able to see through it?
Yes. ;)
I'd like two please.
i'll take 1, maybe 2 depending on cost.
Still in for one
2 please! [thumbsup]
put me down for 1 :)
still 1 downunder
**been a bit distracted with the bushfires :( **
I am in for 1
Quote from: sroberts152 on February 10, 2009, 11:01:32 AM
(http://www.toltoys.com/uploaded_images/legofront.jpeg-732238.jpg)
Where you going to find yellow gloves?
I'm in for 1, but don't have a paypal....
we got around 6 to 8 in Ozmonsters (big Lego fans down here).
getting it sorted now!
Spider
I'd be in for a couple...
I would be in for 2!!!
Cut is square so you can fit it on any visor!!!!
The list so far:
slowpoke13 2
OstOgBajer 1
EvilSteve 1
Obsessed? 2
sroberts 1-2
scduc 1
redxblack 2
hyphen 1-2
Paper5tr3et7 1
Drunken Monkey 2
Goat_Herder 1
Jasaretta 1
GotDuc 1
LePirate 1
PragB 2
bishop 2
Total so far 22-24
Im in for one.
Hey fellas,
I have been PMing back and forth with He Man on this little project. I have previous work experience using and applying vinyl graphics. I brought up a few points to He Man that I would like to clarify in this post.
Best quote I have received was $32.48 per sticker plus a couple bucks for postage and an envelope big enough to ship the graphic in without bending comes to $35. I know its double He Man's quote, but the material is guaranteed for 7+yrs and UV laminate protected.
I initially wanted to print on perforated reflective vinyl, but it is very expensive and few vendors were willing to accommodate such a small order(50 units). There are a few things I want to emphasize. You want to go with the highest grade vinyl possible. There are several products out there and not all of them are up to the task of sun/element exposure at 80+mph. 3M and Oracal(Roland) are the industry leaders with engineering grade vinyl rated to an outdoor life of 7-10yrs. Like most things you get what you pay for.
It absolutely has to be laminated! The ink will rub off, fade and literally wash out of the material if you try and clean it without a protective laminate. A transparent UV laminate will also deepen the color hues. I recommend making the graphic slightly lighter than you want the final product to be. Examples below from a vendor I have used:
Laminated vs. Non Laminated - notice how rich the color is after lamination.
Before cleaner is applied:
(http://www.stickercutting.com/torture/1.jpg)
5 min after cleaner is applied:
(http://www.stickercutting.com/torture/7.jpg)
I suggested printing it in an over sized rectangle 23"L x 7"H bled to the edges so that it can be trimmed to fit your visor. Please let me know if your visors dimensions are greater than this. I measured an AGV, Caberg, and Fulmer I had on hand. All fit within the spec dimension above. I highly recommend using this graphic on a clear or SLIGHTLY tinted shield since it will naturally shade glare and tint the visor.
I am going to pick up samples tomorrow, and will apply them to one of my visors. I will post pics and a review of how it affects vision.
I read all the info on the skullskinz website, and I have serious doubts as to the quality of vinyl they use(waiting on reply back as to the exact brand/type and if it is laminated). All of the customer comments were about the initial install with no mention of how the graphic holds up over time and continuous use. ZX-14 rider says, "Made my bike look "badder" than ever....".
Regardless of the direction everyone decides to go, this has been fun to work on, and I can't wait to see how it turns out.
Questions/concerns?
- Will
I'm definitely interested, but I'd kinda like to see how it looks on my white M696 before actually buying one.
And would it even fit on the little bikini fairing?
Quote from: Rambler1982 on February 11, 2009, 02:10:18 PM
I'm definitely interested, but I'd kinda like to see how it looks on my white M696 before actually buying one.
And would it even fit on the little bikini fairing?
The Lego image isn't for your bike. It's a cover for your helmet's shield.
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2009/02/custom_1233943325072_lego-cycle-helmet.jpg)
HK and He Man -- keep us posted on how the bids come out. Thanks for your efforts!
Quote from: bluemoco on February 11, 2009, 02:27:15 PM
The Lego image isn't for your bike. It's a cover for your helmet's shield.
Ohhhhh I get it now! Ya count me in for one!
For the record, I think it might look neat on a windshield too ;D
Quote from: BastrdHK on February 11, 2009, 02:00:20 PM
Hey fellas,
I have been PMing back and forth with He Man on this little project. I have previous work experience using and applying vinyl graphics. I brought up a few points to He Man that I would like to clarify in this post.
Best quote I have received was $32.48 per sticker plus a couple bucks for postage and an envelope big enough to ship the graphic in without bending comes to $35. I know its double He Man's quote, but the material is guaranteed for 7+yrs and UV laminate protected.
I initially wanted to print on perforated reflective vinyl, but it is very expensive and few vendors were willing to accommodate such a small order(50 units). There are a few things I want to emphasize. You want to go with the highest grade vinyl possible. There are several products out there and not all of them are up to the task of sun/element exposure at 80+mph. 3M and Oracal(Roland) are the industry leaders with engineering grade vinyl rated to an outdoor life of 7-10yrs. Like most things you get what you pay for.
It absolutely has to be laminated! The ink will rub off, fade and literally wash out of the material if you try and clean it without a protective laminate. A transparent UV laminate will also deepen the color hues. I recommend making the graphic slightly lighter than you want the final product to be. Examples below from a vendor I have used:
Laminated vs. Non Laminated - notice how rich the color is after lamination.
Before cleaner is applied:
(http://www.stickercutting.com/torture/1.jpg)
5 min after cleaner is applied:
(http://www.stickercutting.com/torture/7.jpg)
I suggested printing it in an over sized rectangle 23"L x 7"H bled to the edges so that it can be trimmed to fit your visor. Please let me know if your visors dimensions are greater than this. I measured an AGV, Caberg, and Fulmer I had on hand. All fit within the spec dimension above. I highly recommend using this graphic on a clear or SLIGHTLY tinted shield since it will naturally shade glare and tint the visor.
I am going to pick up samples tomorrow, and will apply them to one of my visors. I will post pics and a review of how it affects vision.
I read all the info on the skullskinz website, and I have serious doubts as to the quality of vinyl they use(waiting on reply back as to the exact brand/type and if it is laminated). All of the customer comments were about the initial install with no mention of how the graphic holds up over time and continuous use. ZX-14 rider says, "Made my bike look "badder" than ever....".
Regardless of the direction everyone decides to go, this has been fun to work on, and I can't wait to see how it turns out.
Questions/concerns?
- Will
Thanks for taking the time. I'm all for quality and I will go with whatever the group wants.
Was there meant to be some pics with your post?
I'm in for one also.
Quote from: jasaretta on February 11, 2009, 05:03:36 PM
Was there meant to be some pics with your post?
Yes, they are showing up on my end.....is anyone else having trouble seeing them? They are an important part of my argument.
I see your pics.
Me like, me want, me one....... please ;D
I definitelt want two for sure! This will be conveinient when I'm glaring at drivers!
Thanks for posting up BastadHK, i snuck out of class and went for a short ride. ;D
Anyway, Sounds like most people are for the better quality vinyls as produced by BastardHK, Im not sure if you have tested a few designs (as in how preforated it should be. But perhaps you can print one, and show us?
one or two depending on price.
Quote from: He Man on February 11, 2009, 09:16:52 PM
Thanks for posting up BastadHK, i snuck out of class and went for a short ride. ;D
Anyway, Sounds like most people are for the better quality vinyls as produced by BastardHK, Im not sure if you have tested a few designs (as in how preforated it should be. But perhaps you can print one, and show us?
I hear ya......spring is close!
I am picking up samples of the material tomorrow. I will post up pics of my helmet and report on visibility, and then we will get serious about this thing 8)
count me in for 2 [moto]
Dan............
I'm in for 2 as well!
Hey guys, I like that everyone is intrested, but there isnt an official count going on yet. it looks like the price through BastardHK is fixed at around $35 shipped to your door. When bastardHK gets the sample, ill start an official list!
Quote from: He Man on February 12, 2009, 09:06:30 AM
Hey guys, I like that everyone is intrested, but there isnt an official count going on yet. it looks like the price through BastardHK is fixed at around $35 shipped to your door. When bastardHK gets the sample, ill start an official list!
[thumbsup]
$35 Ship to door for the States, I assume. How much to Canada?
Quote from: Scooter Montgomery on February 11, 2009, 07:13:00 AM
Where you going to find yellow gloves?
Icon... :D
(http://www.thehelmetsource.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/accelerant_tan_S.jpg)
;D bastardhk anyword?
why not go to www.skullskins.net (http://www.skullskins.net) and create the smiley face there? Seems to be a lot cheaper
That site is great. [clap]
Quote from: OhHeyItsFredy on February 14, 2009, 12:49:04 AM
why not go to www.skullskins.net (http://www.skullskins.net) and create the smiley face there? Seems to be a lot cheaper
That's a cool site. Can we do a group buy for with skullskins?
Sorry for the delay fellas....my computer holding the pics fried its motherboard Thursday night. Hold on to your hats, here we go!
I picked up three different samples last Thursday and applied the different vinyl material to three helmets I had on hand (2 AGV w/ clear and mirror shields, 1 Fulmer with clear). The samples reflect some of the options available. Two of the samples are 50% printed material/50% perforated (50/50). The third sample is 70% printable media/30% perforated. The 70/30 is used most often used for window displays on the outside of buildings because it provides a better image display, while still allowing enough transparency for the window to be usable. 50/50 is what you see on car window graphics b/c transparency is maximized, and the graphic is still viewable.
There are distinct differences if you look closely at the pictures.
We put samples of Oracal(Roland product) 50/50 and 70/30 next to each other on a Fulmer w/ clear shield. Notice the larger diameter perforations and more per sq inch on the 50/50:
(http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53678%3Enu%3D3386%3E5%3B9%3E668%3EWSNRCG%3D323%3A47%3B3%3A5%3C58nu0mrj)
(http://images2c.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53644%3Enu%3D3386%3E5%3B9%3E668%3EWSNRCG%3D323%3A47%3B3%3A5%3C5%3Anu0mrj)
Next we asked several people in our office to try it on and give us their opinion. All voted for the 50/50 vinyl. It is the obvious choice as it hinders vision approximately 5-10%, while the 70/30 blocks 15%-20%. Here is a view from inside the helmet w/ 50/50:
(http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp5367%3B%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E38%3A%3E3%3C4%3E232%3B38%3A4%3B5593ot1lsi)
We then applied the second sample of 3M 50/50 to an AGV with mirror shield and one with a clear shield. This material has 1.5mm perforations while the 50/50 above has 2mm. Personally, I like the smaller perforations. It is looks better on the helmet:
(http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53677%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E38%3A%3E3%3C4%3E232%3B38%3A4%3B5595ot1lsi)
This pic also shows one of my concerns for our application. The extreme curve of a visor makes application difficult, and if the adhesive is not aggressive enough or, as in this case, old stock just laying around it will not perform well. During the test ride I was sure it would not hold. Amazingly, it did not budge at 80 mph even as I rotated my head from side to side, up and down, and looking behind me. No flapping or high frequency buzzing. It just looks like crap. :)
We rode approx 20mi. in daylight and back to the office at night to test visibility in city traffic and at highway speeds. I was warned by one of my vendors that he had negative feedback from a few race car drivers he had applied the material for. They complained that sometimes their eyes would focus on the vinyl on the windshield instead of looking beyond it causing headaches. I was concerned, and I wanted to test it for myself before I recommend the material to you guys. I set off with another tester, and was honestly surprised at how unaffected my vision was. The material has a black backing, and after a few minutes I forgot it was there until I would look over at a stoplight and see my friend and fellow tester with it on his visor. Even the blank vinyl looked cool! When we stopped after the daylight run, neither of us had an issue with vision or felt it decreased our awareness. We had a bite to eat and came back in complete darkness on a mix of city streets and interstate.
Here is where I will stick the ***WARNING*** My dark tinted mirror shield coupled with the vinyl made it interesting to say the least. Normally, I would not ride at night with this shield, but I needed to experience it to provide the best feedback for the DMF ;) I could not distinguish road imperfections/debris and my depth perception was measurably reduced, to the point where I could not accurately judge distance/speed of oncoming cars at intersections. It also reduced how bright the brake lights of cars were, and we both had late reactions more than once. When my partner with a clear shield caught himself before riding over a concrete island I figured we had enough data to stop the night test and form an opinion. ***DON'T RIDE WITH A DARK OR VINYL SHIELD AT NIGHT, IN LOW VISIBILITY, OR INCLEMENT WEATHER!!!
Based on the test and opinions I am having sample graphics printed up by two different vendors. They will be ready Tuesday afternoon. I will apply both of them and take pics so we can vote on which looks the best, or if we need to tweak the design. These will be samples of the final product printed off of new rolls of material. I am hoping they will adhere better than the old stock we previously tested. 8)
Whew that was a long one!
Hit me with any questions or concerns.
[clap]
do you have a pic of 1.5mm 50/50 vs 2.00mm 50/50? have you come up with a solution to curvature of the lens?
Also have you tried washing your visor? How aggressive do you need to be to start lifting the vinyl?
I'm liking how this is coming along since we can see how the item looks inside.
Will be waiting!
Quote from: He Man on February 16, 2009, 02:02:34 PM
[clap]
do you have a pic of 1.5mm 50/50 vs 2.00mm 50/50? have you come up with a solution to curvature of the lens?
Also have you tried washing your visor? How aggressive do you need to be to start lifting the vinyl?
I'm liking how this is coming along since we can see how the item looks inside.
Will be waiting!
He Man,
I only had a small patch of 2mm 50/50, but I will take pics from inside the helmet tomorrow when the test graphics are printed. No, I did not wash them after to installation because the samples were not laminated. I am counting on the new material to adhere more aggressively curing the curvature issue. The Oracal is impossible to pull up without a lifted edge. The 3M peeled off as easily as painter's tape, but again it was old scrap that they were kicking around the shop floor. It did not move, flap, or buzz at high speeds....surprised me really!
Quote from: BastrdHK on February 16, 2009, 01:21:42 PM
[...]
We then applied the second sample of 3M 50/50 to an AGV with mirror shield and one with a clear shield. This material has 1.5mm perforations while the 50/50 above has 2mm. Personally, I like the smaller perforations. It looks better on the helmet:
(http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53677%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E38%3A%3E3%3C4%3E232%3B38%3A4%3B5595ot1lsi)
This pic also shows one of my concerns for our application. The extreme curve of a visor makes application difficult [...] Amazingly, it did not budge at 80 mph [...]
The material has a black backing, and after a few minutes I forgot it was there [...]
Based on the test and opinions I am having sample graphics printed up by two different vendors. They will be ready Tuesday afternoon. I will apply both of them and take pics so we can vote on which looks the best, or if we need to tweak the design. These will be samples of the final product printed off of new rolls of material. I am hoping they will adhere better than the old stock we previously tested.
I expect that the 1.5 mm 50/50 will give a good tradeoff between graphic appearance and rideability. Think of the 1.5 mm as the "pixel size", and you'll see why the image should look better than the 2.0 mm 50/50. Even smaller 50/50 (1.0 mm?) would probably look even better, if it's available.
Is this retroreflective? When printed upon? Not required for me to like it, but an added bonus to have a glowing, grinning smiley at night when car lights bounce off it....
Is the material stretchable at all, when applying it? Or is a lack of play in it one of the reasons why it's so hard to apply? In other words, are we going to be faced with bubbles and wrinkles along the edges because of a lack of material give?
That black backing is probably a big plus for visibility from the inside.
Anyhow, thanks for the good info! I personally especially appreciate your willingness to break speed limits in the interests of science.
Quote from: trenner on February 16, 2009, 03:29:09 PM
Anyhow, thanks for the good info! I personally especially appreciate your willingness to break speed limits in the interests of science.
Ha....I don't need much of a reason really ;)
Trenner,
Your absolutely right about perforation diameter in relation to pixel count. At 50' you can't tell the difference between 2mm and 1.5mm, but at 10' it is very evident. The smallest I have seen is 1.5mm, but I will keep looking for the next batch maybe. I am trying to source perforated reflective vinyl, as that was my original idea. No one seems to carry it, nor do they want to buy a roll for such a small order, but I will try and build some confidence with the printing company we end up using.
The vinyl will stretch slightly, but it is not recommended because the material has memory. If stretched it will try and return to its original state after application causing cracks and peeling. The ripples seen in the photo are due to the adhesive being old and separating from its protective backing before I got it.
- Will
how is this project coming along? Do you have a possible time of when the product will be ready?
He Man,
I am very pleased with how the graphic has turned out. It looks damn good on the helmet. I am in the process of writing up the install instructions. I will post up pics of the graphic on an AGV Stealth. I want to put up it up to a vote to see if everyone is ok with the current design or if we need to tweak the design before I make the bulk order. If no modifications are needed we can have the order printed and ready for individual shipping Monday.
I am going to get some full size on bike shots if it ever stops raining. I will install the graphic on Arai tomorrow and post some pics to show the differences.
- Will
been following this thread and was wondering about legality. anyone checked on law and covering face shields?
Quote from: Raux on February 18, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
been following this thread and was wondering about legality. anyone checked on law and covering face shields?
I haven't found any specifics about laws against tint on visors in the U.S. Most of the legislation is in the UK...no mirror shields or dark tint above 50%. Check your state's laws to see if there are issues. South Carolina doesn't have a helmet law, and therefore no restrictions/requirements for visors. They should only be used with clear shields in my opinion. The graphic provides approx. 25% shading/glare reduction. Equivalent or less than most tinted visors. I think you could point that fact out to the [leo] if you ever found yourself in that situation.
In for one! ;D I loved LEGO's as a kid... [thumbsup]
How about adding eye-brows for the ladies?!?
How's the stickiness on the latest prototype? Application go okay, no wrinkles?
Quote from: Raux on February 18, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
been following this thread and was wondering about legality. anyone checked on law and covering face shields?
http://www.tintdude.com/laws.html (http://www.tintdude.com/laws.html)
Scroll to the bottom of the page, and you'll see links to actual law text, by state. Now, at least for Oregon, this refers to "windows of a motor vehicle", so I'm not sure how or whether motorcycle visors would be addressed. Still looking for that....
UPDATE:
1) In Oregon, a visor or other eye protection is not required for motorcyclists. http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp?state=or (http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp?state=or)
2) In "A.B.A.T.E. of OREGON v. HOWLAND" 1997, (http://usff.com/hldl/courtcases/oredecision.html (http://usff.com/hldl/courtcases/oredecision.html)), the judge ruled that:
"In summary, ORS 801.366 means precisely what it says: so long as a rider is wearing a "protective covering" on his or her head consisting of "a hard outer shell, padding adjacent to and inside the outer shell and a chin-strap type retention system," and the helmet bears a "DOT sticker" indicating that the helmet meets USDOT standards, the rider is in compliance with the helmet law and the police may not inquire further."
If your helmet meets those requirements, it is, by definition, a legal helmet for Oregon. And if the visor is considered to be part of the helmet, then it
probably follows that this is true regardless of what the visor might or might not look like, or be coated with.
However, I am not a lawyer, and this applies only to Oregon. There might indeed be visor-specific law for Oregon that describes what you can do to your motorcycle helmet visor, if you choose to have a visor. But I can't find it.
Vote on the initial design and voice you opinions in this poll:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=19437.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=19437.0)
QuoteHow's the stickiness on the latest prototype? Application go okay, no wrinkles?
[thumbsup]
The adhesion is excellent. I had a slight wrinkle near the lifting tab that is impossible to see until you inspect closely. The install went very well, and prior fears about applying these graphics on a curved visor are gone.
A few pics from the test ride today:
(http://images2c.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53662%3Enu%3D3386%3E5%3B9%3E668%3EWSNRCG%3D323%3A47%3B7%3B7778nu0mrj)
(http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53679%3Enu%3D3386%3E5%3B9%3E668%3EWSNRCG%3D323%3A47%3B7%3B777%3Cnu0mrj)
(http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53677%3Enu%3D3386%3E5%3B9%3E668%3EWSNRCG%3D323%3A47%3B7%3B7784nu0mrj)
(http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53679%3Enu%3D3386%3E5%3B9%3E668%3EWSNRCG%3D323%3A47%3B7%3B7785nu0mrj)
Quote from: BastrdHK on February 18, 2009, 03:20:05 PM
(http://images2d.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53679%3Enu%3D3386%3E5%3B9%3E668%3EWSNRCG%3D323%3A47%3B7%3B7785nu0mrj)
NICE! [thumbsup]
That really does look good.
that is the cats ass [thumbsup]
Quote from: Raux on February 18, 2009, 12:50:09 PM
been following this thread and was wondering about legality. anyone checked on law and covering face shields?
I think its up to the end user to do that himself. Laws vary from state to state so it may be illegal in one, and not legal in the other.
HA... thats hilariously awesome... I want one
This is the Bees Knees.
I want to get extras incase I screw up the installation....and for my spare helmet.
Put me down for 4 please.
would it be possible to make an unamused face mask as well? I would be all over it!!!
also, is it too late to get one of these suckers? i didnt realize how great it would turn out!
If i can still get in on this deal... count me in for 2!
BastardHK put ordering info in the "poll" thread.
Here (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=19437.msg348335#msg348335).
Hello, Ducatistas!
Like you, as soon as I saw the minifig visor, I knew I had to have one. So I made my own, using a local sign-maker I know to print the vinyl.
I got it all together today! Pictures are available on Flickr here:
http://tinyurl.com/minifigvisor (http://tinyurl.com/minifigvisor)
I then saw this thread, and saw that I've been scooped by you guys by a week. Well, no shame in being beaten to the punch by a gang of Ducati riders. Thought you might like seeing the pictures, and want to consider going directly to a sign-vinyl printer, as you can save a bunch of money that way.
Cordial regards,
John Young
http://www.guerilladrivein.com (http://www.guerilladrivein.com) <-- 16MM movies shown from the sidecar of my BMW R100/7 in West Chester, PA
[thumbsup]
BastardHK beat out the competitor in quality vs pricing from the quotes i got everywhere. he is the manufacturer and distributor, so its all good.
Oh, I see! Sorry, didn't realize that the actual manufacturer was ALREADY in this thread. Ahem! Excuse me, I'll go take my foot out of my mouth now.
Quote from: tikaro on February 26, 2009, 11:06:32 AM
Hello, Ducatistas!
Like you, as soon as I saw the minifig visor, I knew I had to have one. So I made my own, using a local sign-maker I know to print the vinyl.
I got it all together today! Pictures are available on Flickr here:
http://tinyurl.com/minifigvisor (http://tinyurl.com/minifigvisor)
I then saw this thread, and saw that I've been scooped by you guys by a week. Well, no shame in being beaten to the punch by a gang of Ducati riders.
That's awesome! Great minds. I like the eyebrows, too.
Quote from: tikaro on February 26, 2009, 11:06:32 AM
Hello, Ducatistas!
Like you, as soon as I saw the minifig visor, I knew I had to have one. So I made my own, using a local sign-maker I know to print the vinyl.
I got it all together today! Pictures are available on Flickr here:
http://tinyurl.com/minifigvisor (http://tinyurl.com/minifigvisor)
I then saw this thread, and saw that I've been scooped by you guys by a week. Well, no shame in being beaten to the punch by a gang of Ducati riders. Thought you might like seeing the pictures, and want to consider going directly to a sign-vinyl printer, as you can save a bunch of money that way.
Cordial regards,
John Young
http://www.guerilladrivein.com (http://www.guerilladrivein.com) <-- 16MM movies shown from the sidecar of my BMW R100/7 in West Chester, PA
i thought about this as well.. i will probably go to my local sign shop to custom make me some other face shields (unamused is for sure). I went ahead and ordered 2 of these from HK already.
Okay, I'm confused. How much are they? How do I get one?
Thanks.
Quote from: NorDog on March 16, 2009, 10:02:52 PM
Okay, I'm confused. How much are they? How do I get one?
Thanks.
Details are here. (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=19437.msg348335#msg348335)