http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2009/march/23-292/mar2309-ducati-streetfighter-your-questions/?&R=EPI-107014 (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2009/march/23-292/mar2309-ducati-streetfighter-your-questions/?&R=EPI-107014)
QuoteMCN will be the first people in the world to ride the new 155bhp Ducati Streetfighter at the Ascari racetrack in Spain on Tuesday morning.
MCN editor Marc Potter will be riding the 1098-powered motorcycle on Tuesday morning, and we want to know what questions you want to ask the factory.
The bike is the most powerful naked motorcycle ever made by the Bologna factory, with a claimed 155bhp at 9500rpm from the 1099cc V-twin. It also makes a claimed 85ft-lb of torque.
Factory insiders say the men running in the bikes for the world launch claim it has far exceeded their expectations. But they would say that, they work for Ducati.
The motorcycle is also the first naked Ducati road bike to feature fully adjustable traction control, similar to the system developed for the Desmosedici RR road bike, something it is highly likely to need if the power claims are true.
Ducati claims the motorcycle is a modern interpretation of the Streetfighter movement of the eighties, combined with Ducati's style and design. It also scooped the 'best-looking bike' award at the recent Milan Motorcycle Show in November.
We'll put the Ducati factory's claims to the test on Tuesday morning when we ride the bike. Click back for more updates as it happens from the world riding launch.
Send us your questions and we'll put them to the men behind the 155bhp naked 1098.
Local importer here in SA sent it`s representatives to Spain or somewhere for the launch this week [thumbsup]
I saw it at Daytona/Ducati Island. I must admit, it looks way better in person than the photos.
http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2009/03/ducati-streetfighter-s-to-hit-us.html (http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2009/03/ducati-streetfighter-s-to-hit-us.html)
Ducati Streetfighter S to hit US dealerships in May
im digging the white... but if only it could come with a red frame.
Quote from: ghosthound on March 23, 2009, 12:01:24 PM
im digging the white... but if only it could come with a red frame.
Agreed! Sad to see they ditched the red frame on the 1198 too! Black with red frame was my fav.
I think the lower piece of bodywork needs to be matte black regardless of the color of the bike.
QuoteI think the lower piece of bodywork needs to be matte black regardless of the color of the bike.
You know where Wallmart is, mod away [bang]
Um.. okay..?
Streetfighter ...... streetfighter ...... streetfighter ........ [bang] [bang] [bang]
US$15k ........ that will be RM130k in my country ....... [bang] [bang] [bang]
Trickle Trickle..
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2009/march/23-292/mar2509-ducati-streetfighter-world-first-ride/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2009/march/23-292/mar2509-ducati-streetfighter-world-first-ride/)
wish they would do photos of it not from some jacked up angle... although the one with the bikini clad brunette isn't so bad
Saw the Streetfighter last December in Seattle Motorcycle Show. I would have to say it looks much better in person and it's starting to grow on me.
+1 on the white Streetfighter
trickle...
First crash!
http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/ducati_streetfighter_we_crashed_it_first/6613.html (http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/ducati_streetfighter_we_crashed_it_first/6613.html)
I'm liking it too. At 167 kgr. + 15lb. battery, 25 lbs. fuel and 4 to 6 lbs. water that's like 414 lbs. That means under 400 lbs. with light weight pipes and mufflers and taking off any unnecessary stuff.
So kitted, well tuned and as light as you can get is something like 150 rwhp and just less than 400 lbs. That's some kick ass specs. Of course for $18,500 plus $3000 for the kit it should be some kick ass specs.
Still feel like Ducati is cheating us out of 15 HP from the 1198 engine. Yea, I know, 150 enough. ;D
LA
trickle...
Second Crash!!
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/103/2892/Motorcycle-Article/2010-Ducati-Streetfighter-First-Ride.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/103/2892/Motorcycle-Article/2010-Ducati-Streetfighter-First-Ride.aspx)
Quote"... Nonetheless, its tall first-gear and slightly grabby clutch might dissuade potential riders from use on the streets. Yet it's what makes this motorcycle feel like a true Ducati racebike, and the primary reason many continue to gravitate towards the brand."
from motorcycle-usa.com (http://motorcycle-usa.com)
Sounds good when you can hear it..
Onboard the Ducati Streetfighter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFGWSQnVs-M#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
with Termi cans:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/3382055206_974f73015f.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35347881@N05/3382055206/#sizes/o/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35347881@N05/3382055206/#sizes/o/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3609/3384895573_5c731bbdb2.jpg?v=0)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3608/3382054682_f2ca8f05e9.jpg?v=0)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35347881@N05/3382054682/#sizes/o/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35347881@N05/3382054682/#sizes/o/)
big bootay
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3451/3381236723_18fb894af3.jpg?v=0)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35347881@N05/3381236723/#sizes/o/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35347881@N05/3381236723/#sizes/o/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3442/3378957483_3d1b82a3e4.jpg?v=0)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mc24/3378957483/#sizes/o/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mc24/3378957483/#sizes/o/)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/3378957401_6dae4a5b7b.jpg?v=0)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mc24/3378957401/#sizes/o/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mc24/3378957401/#sizes/o/)
more pics here:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=ducati+streetfighter&s=rec (http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=ducati+streetfighter&s=rec)
i wonder how long before we start seeing the streetfighter headlights on the monsters. can someone do a photoshop example? a worthwhile mod? maybe for the 696/1100, not the older monsters.
that thing soooo needs a short tail kit and a GP style shorty can.
or Boom Tubes, maybe?
definitely chop'd, & get rid of the mirrors. Can't stand 'em.
first ride impressions video
Ducati Streetfighter Launch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm3pc5O0t2M#ws-lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Quote from: ptooey on March 27, 2009, 06:28:53 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/3378957401_6dae4a5b7b.jpg?v=0)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mc24/3378957401/#sizes/o/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mc24/3378957401/#sizes/o/)
The Streetfighter is stalking, ready to pounce the guy!
It does have a little predator feel to it, quick jump in the mud ditch
Quote from: tristantumble on March 27, 2009, 07:49:13 AM
i wonder how long before we start seeing the streetfighter headlights on the monsters. can someone do a photoshop example? a worthwhile mod? maybe for the 696/1100, not the older monsters.
what about the original monster tail and headlight on the streetfighter? So essentially a 09 s4rs.. I'd like to see a photochop of that
i wonder how much insurance is on this thing... im hoping its categorized like a monster (cheap rates) and not a sportbike.
the more i see it, the more i like it.
Its a naked 1099 and should be categorized like a regular sports bike , like it or not..
My money is on the Brutale...
No wait...my money gone ! [bacon]
A while back I saw a photochop of the Streetfighter with a different headlight that looked more like it came from a superbike. Really looked great IMO and I'd love to see something like that available.
(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1127/streetfightertuning.jpg)
Custom yours @ http://www.motopormoto.com/2008/11/08/tunea-la-streetfighter/ (http://www.motopormoto.com/2008/11/08/tunea-la-streetfighter/)
Quote from: Raux on March 27, 2009, 10:04:19 AM
that thing soooo needs a short tail kit and a GP style shorty can.
Quote from: z0mb1e_DUC on March 27, 2009, 10:07:42 AM
or Boom Tubes, maybe?
definitely chop'd, & get rid of the mirrors. Can't stand 'em.
and clip-ons ... killing the mirrors and reservoirs at the same time. and turn signals got to go with em.
all in all, pretty easy to take it from [puke] to :D
Quote from: wark on March 27, 2009, 05:41:42 PM
and clip-ons ... killing the mirrors and reservoirs at the same time. and turn signals got to go with em.
all in all, pretty easy to take it from [puke] to :D
and add some fairings to cover up the tumor growing out of the front. Oh wait, they already built that. [laugh]
Looks best in the dark - very dark.
[puke]
Quote from: silentbob on March 27, 2009, 05:59:00 PM
and add some fairings to cover up the tumor growing out of the front. Oh wait, they already built that. [laugh]
yeah, you know it really would be a lot simpler to just... [laugh]
okay let's see this sucker with wire spokes [evil]
...and an aircooled 2-valve :-[
Ducati has listened to everyone's suggestions and made some final changes to the production Streetfighter.
1. Get rid of the ugly headlight and replace it with a more SBK like version.
2. Install clipons.
3. Cover up the big tumor in front of the motor.
4. Use the same airbox and injectors from the SBK to get the same power.
5. Get rid of the ugly shotgun exhaust that needs to be removed to change the rear tire.
6. Install the 1198 cc motor.
7. Make the bike more aerodynamic so you don't get sucked off the back when approaching speeds at which you can actually use the extra power.
Here is the final result:
(http://www.gizmag.com/pictures/10864_29010941845.jpg)
In a recent magazine article they showed the acceleration curves of 600cc, 750cc and 1000cc Japanese superbikes. They were basically dead even until 90mph and didn't really start to spread out until after 100mph when the aero drag really started to build. So you need to ask yourself how fast will you be riding a naked bike.
Does one really have to remove the exhaust cans to remove the wheel? Doesn't make sense to me that Ducati would do that.
I've had several people tell me they had to do the same on the S4RS. I never rode my bike without the Termi cans, but never had to remove the cans to remove the wheel.
Good thing too as the bike eats tires like it was designed to do that.
LA
Quote from: LA on March 28, 2009, 08:15:12 AM
Does one really have to remove the exhaust cans to remove the wheel? Doesn't make sense to me that Ducati would do that.
I've had several people tell me they had to do the same on the S4RS. I never rode my bike without the Termi cans, but never had to remove the cans to remove the wheel.
Good thing too as the bike eats tires like it was designed to do that.
LA
One of the articles mentioned the fact that you need to remove the mufflers to change the tire.
Quote from: silentbob on March 28, 2009, 08:04:27 AM
Ducati has listened to everyone's suggestions and made some final changes to the production Streetfighter.
1. Get rid of the ugly headlight and replace it with a more SBK like version.
2. Install clipons.
3. Cover up the big tumor in front of the motor.
4. Use the same airbox and injectors from the SBK to get the same power.
5. Get rid of the ugly shotgun exhaust that needs to be removed to change the rear tire.
6. Install the 1198 cc motor.
7. Make the bike more aerodynamic so you don't get sucked off the back when approaching speeds at which you can actually use the extra power.
Here is the final result:
(http://www.gizmag.com/pictures/10864_29010941845.jpg)
In a recent magazine article they showed the acceleration curves of 600cc, 750cc and 1000cc Japanese superbikes. They were basically dead even until 90mph and didn't really start to spread out until after 100mph when the aero drag really started to build. So you need to ask yourself how fast will you be riding a naked bike.
+1, [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
I love the SF, and if I had the extra cash I would happily get one. But your right, the engine size for a naked is all for show.
Hell for Leather posted the Streetfighter's dyno numbers, charted with a nice comparison to the outgoing S4Rs:
(http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Ducati_Streetfighter_Dyno.jpg)
wow. just wow
damn - must.......resist
hopefully once the streetfighter hits... the market will be flooded with S4Rs for a bargain! [beer] [coffee]
Quote from: ghosthound on March 30, 2009, 12:03:47 PM
hopefully once the streetfighter hits... the market will be flooded with S4Rs for a bargain! [beer] [coffee]
A good thing, especially if you're looking for (or dreaming of) a Tricolore!!
actually im not a fan of the tricolor.... color scheme.
Id really want a red frame with a white tank. [thumbsup]
Quote from: ghosthound on March 30, 2009, 02:48:30 PM
Id really want a red frame with a white tank. [thumbsup]
Agreed! [thumbsup] The pearl white with red frame S4R is almost enough to make me forgive the ugly radiator.
As a compromise, when I repaint my S2R1000, that is the color I am going to go with (as of right now at least). Although I would go white fender with red stripe instead of solid red front fender.
I fell for the tricolore back when if first debuted. Just awesome - IMO. The streetfighter definitly has our attention though. I can't wait to see it in person and most importantly, hear it!
Undecided till I ride both but I'll have the streetfighter or 1198 the day med school is over. Its a ways off but i need something to keep me motivated.
Quote from: bluemoco on March 30, 2009, 10:43:53 AM
Hell for Leather posted the Streetfighter's dyno numbers, charted with a nice comparison to the outgoing S4Rs:
(http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Ducati_Streetfighter_Dyno.jpg)
The graph here has been carefully designed to maximise the apparent performance difference between the motors. It shows only the top half of the rpm range, and more significantly the top half of the power range, emphasising the Streetfighter's extra 25 hp at the top end.
At 5000 rpm the Streetfighter has about a 6 or 7 hp advantage, or about 10 per cent, which is what you would expect from the capacity increase (998 - 1098) alone.
And remember, the curves shown are for the stock motor, measured at the crankshaft.
The full Termi kit adds at least 12hp to the S4Rs at the rear wheel, and more like 16rwhp in the upper mid-range. Those numbers would be bigger again measured at the crank on Ducati's dyno. I seem to remember Ducati claiming somewhere that a kitted S4Rs produced about 150hp at the crank.
So ... we can expect a
stock Streetfighter to have a little bit more go than an
S4Rs with full Termi kit, but not a great deal more.
Of course, you could also kit the Streetfighter. And it's 10kg lighter in stock trim.
Nevertheless ...
I'm not entirely sure how useful it is to have a naked bike with that much power....
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 31, 2009, 06:26:27 PM
I'm not entirely sure how useful it is to have a naked bike with that much power....
That's my point. The Streetfighter will be neck and neck with an old S4R until 100 mph or so. Beyond that you really want / need a fairing and some clipons.
Quote from: silentbob on March 31, 2009, 06:36:38 PM
That's my point. The Streetfighter will be neck and neck with an old S4R until 100 mph or so. Beyond that you really want / need a fairing and some clipons.
So better unusable technology for more money?
Sign me up!
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 31, 2009, 06:41:04 PM
So better unusable technology for more money?
Sign me up!
It's usuable. You just need a set of clipons and a fairing. [laugh]
120 mph wheelies, what more do you need?
A little is good, more is better, too much is just right.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 31, 2009, 06:26:27 PM
I'm not entirely sure how useful it is to have a naked bike with that much power....
Gear it
wayyyy down and put some ballast on the front end. Fixed! ;D
Quote from: yotogi on March 30, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
Agreed! [thumbsup] The pearl white with red frame S4R is almost enough to make me forgive the ugly radiator.
The radiator is awesome... It's called a "Monster" i.e. Frankenbike.. It looks like they shoehorned an SBK motor into a standard bike frame that was not made for it, and that's exactly what they did..
More on the Streetfighter from MCN here:
http://issuu.com/motorcyclenews/docs/mcn010409/3?mode=embed&documentId=090114153956-583aa6395eed400d93046f763b149946&layout=grey (http://issuu.com/motorcyclenews/docs/mcn010409/3?mode=embed&documentId=090114153956-583aa6395eed400d93046f763b149946&layout=grey)
They're a hard bunch to please. Reckon the new bike comes up short in the grunt department ...
I'm assuming it's not an April Fool joke.
now since i traded in my '05 S4R for the StreetFighter,, where is the forum to hang out?
Quote from: vampire on April 02, 2009, 01:57:32 AM
now since i traded in my '05 S4R for the StreetFighter,, where is the forum to hang out?
oh yeah. crap we are going to loose all you watercooled guys to the SF forum.. :( that sucks.
Quote from: vampire on April 02, 2009, 01:57:32 AM
now since i traded in my '05 S4R for the StreetFighter,, where is the forum to hang out?
You stay right here. We even let 696 people on the board.
Quote from: vampire on April 02, 2009, 01:57:32 AM
now since i traded in my '05 S4R for the StreetFighter,, where is the forum to hang out?
Sure...we'll believe you when we see pictures! ;D
Quote from: Moronic on March 31, 2009, 06:08:02 PM
The full Termi kit adds at least 12hp to the S4Rs at the rear wheel, and more like 16rwhp in the upper mid-range. Those numbers would be bigger again measured at the crank on Ducati's dyno. I seem to remember Ducati claiming somewhere that a kitted S4Rs produced about 150hp at the crank.
Those numbers might be a tad optimistic.
Quote from: mac900 on April 02, 2009, 09:30:48 AM
Those numbers might be a tad optimistic.
I have seen an S4RS with racing kit dyno at 147.. Ducati claims the kit gives you +13% hp so that is dead on for Ducati's numbers.
Quote from: sally101 on April 02, 2009, 11:09:36 AM
I have seen an S4RS with racing kit dyno at 147.. Ducati claims the kit gives you +13% hp so that is dead on for Ducati's numbers.
It would need more than the Termi kit for that. The numbers are closer to 127 at the wheel. Of course you can make the dyno say anything you like.
Quote from: silentbob on April 02, 2009, 11:19:03 AM
It would need more than the Termi kit for that. The numbers are closer to 127 at the wheel. Of course you can make the dyno say anything you like.
+1 on 127 at the rear wheel, that's what I got. I'll be interested to see what the Street Fighter dynos at the rear wheel
Quote from: dbran1949 on April 02, 2009, 11:27:39 AM
+1 on 127 at the rear wheel, that's what I got. I'll be interested to see what the Street Fighter dynos at the rear wheel
Well Ducati says 130 stock.. I know, I know, it's their numbers, but 130 + 13% = 146.9.. So I use that number when bragging.. ;D
Quote from: mac900 on April 02, 2009, 09:30:48 AM
Those numbers might be a tad optimistic.
That's just going off Brad Black's dyno chart - from memory 116hp at rear wheel for the stocker and 128 with the kit, but a bigger gain in the upper mid-range.
But that's measured at the rear wheel. Ducati's charted comparison with the Streetfighter, shown on this thread, is all done at the crank, where the chart shows the S4Rs making 130hp stock - the figure Ducati has always claimed for that bike. The question then is what would a kitted S4Rs produce
at the crank on Ducati's dyno. sally101's suggestion is 147hp, and given Black's measured rear-wheel gain was more than 10 per cent, we can predict we'd see at least 143
at the crank from the same kitted bike - and again, with a steeper curve in the upper mid-range.
Plug that in to Ducati's comparison chart and the Streetfighter won't look quite so impressive. Show the whole rev-range and it will look even less impressive - it would have a 7 per cent power advantage across the board, which is nice but far from shattering. ;)