(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/04/moto_terminator_screencap.jpg)
"Imagine for a moment that you are an artificially intelligent computer system with plans to kill off all humanity in a post apocalyptic future. Got it? If you were to pattern your two-wheeled robotic progeny after an individual motorcycle design, what would you choose?"
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/28/video-ducati-hypermotard-featured-in-i-terminator-salvation-i/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/28/video-ducati-hypermotard-featured-in-i-terminator-salvation-i/)
yep, I'm confused.
did they film tards and the cgi them into the moto-terminators?
The bikes (HyperMotard's) are used as the reference for the Animators, Director and the Guys programming the computerized Camera moves, they generally shoot a couple of passes with the bikes in frame, tweak the action and camera moves, and then film a couple of passes with the Camera doing it's moves, but no bikes so the Animators can then put the CGI bikes in during post production.
It's also used as a Reference for the Animators for Lighting/shadows, dust movement, Bike physics, Etc, it assists them to make the CGI Terminator bikes as realistic as possible.
I think they have dots on the bikes in which a computer then renders the mototerminators in and then the CGI guys come in and polish it up. So the real life effects of the dust wind, reaction of fire and what not are there and don't have to be generated. Effects like dust in wind require writing a ridiculously hard program to get it to look real. So its easier to do it for real and just do a swap.
Pretty badass.
Looking forward to seeing the movie in IMAX when it comes out..
They filmed that in NM. They bought the motards from the local shop and "rented" out their main mechanic for a month. Was a pain in the ass for those that needed service. The guy spent his days welding frames that were busted in filming. I guess the stunt riders were pretty bad ass!
Looking forward to seeing it
groovy, that's what I gathered from that video clip
I just pray to god that they don't actually call them "moto-terminators" in the movie, Terminators are the designation for the infiltration units, made to look human so that they can get into camps and take people out. Then there are the Hunter-Killers that are the flying tanks... they need another term than the dumbed-down for the masses "moto-terminator".
Quote from: zedsaid on April 29, 2009, 12:22:53 PM
I just pray to god that they don't actually call them "moto-terminators" in the movie, Terminators are the designation for the infiltration units, made to look human so that they can get into camps and take people out. Then there are the Hunter-Killers that are the flying tanks... they need another term than the dumbed-down for the masses "moto-terminator".
I believe that is what they're called
The guy clearly says "Moto-Terminator" in the trailers (Ghey [clap])...
Quote from: zedsaid on April 29, 2009, 12:22:53 PM
I just pray to god that they don't actually call them "moto-terminators" in the movie, Terminators are the designation for the infiltration units, made to look human so that they can get into camps and take people out. Then there are the Hunter-Killers that are the flying tanks... they need another term than the dumbed-down for the masses "moto-terminator".
I hope they call it the "Hypermotard Human Hunter and Destroyer". That would be awesome. and by awesome, I meant TOTALLY SWEET!
Quote from: Goat_Herder on April 29, 2009, 02:56:05 PM
I hope they call it the "Hypermotard Human Hunter and Destroyer". That would be awesome. and by awesome, I meant TOTALLY SWEET!
they coulda just put some terminators ON tards...
FTW!!!
Quote from: teddy037.2 on April 29, 2009, 03:01:52 PM
they coulda just put some terminators ON tards...
FTW!!!
A beeter question would be - what is the advatage for having robot bikes at all? Just take out the legs of a terminator and put some wheels on them. Better yet, why don't they just put a jet pack on a terminator? On top of that, take out the arms and put machine guns on them.
I would totally piss my pants if a flying terminator comes at me with guns for arms. I wouldn't even bother fighting back.
Quote from: Goat_Herder on April 29, 2009, 03:13:18 PM
A beeter question would be - what is the advatage for having robot bikes at all? Just take out the legs of a terminator and put some wheels on them. Better yet, why don't they just put a jet pack on a terminator? On top of that, take out the arms and put machine guns on them.
I would totally piss my pants if a flying terminator comes at me with guns for arms. I wouldn't even bother fighting back.
The entire point of the terminators, is that they look human... enough to get close, possibly into a camp, and start their rampage from inside, as opposed to being spotted a mile off when you can run, or mount an effective defense.
If you're going to do any of those other things, it's another beast entirely, and no need for the humanoid endoskeleton, . Thus the HK's (hunter-killers) are "terminators that fly" of course, they're not called terminators, and they don't look like anything but a flying killing machine.
Maybe the robo-cycles should be called Seeker-killers. or SK's. Maneuverable, deadly. But not Terminators.
Quote from: zedsaid on April 29, 2009, 03:58:33 PM
The entire point of the terminators, is that they look human... enough to get close, possibly into a camp, and start their rampage from inside, as opposed to being spotted a mile off when you can run, or mount an effective defense.
If you're going to do any of those other things, it's another beast entirely, and no need for the humanoid endoskeleton, . Thus the HK's (hunter-killers) are "terminators that fly" of course, they're not called terminators, and they don't look like anything but a flying killing machine.
Maybe the robo-cycles should be called Seeker-killers. or SK's. Maneuverable, deadly. But not Terminators.
I was thinking more in terms of R&D savings by having alternative forms of the terminator. Much like the F35 - Joint Strike Fighter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Strike_Fighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Strike_Fighter)
Essentially, you will take the base form of the termnator and it's CPU/AI and apply different external parts for different different purpose and type. Switch between form would be quick and painless (no pun intended).
Quote from: Goat_Herder on April 29, 2009, 04:16:01 PM
I was thinking more in terms of R&D savings by having alternative forms of the terminator. Much like the F35 - Joint Strike Fighter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Strike_Fighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Strike_Fighter)
Essentially, you will take the base form of the termnator and it's CPU/AI and apply different external parts for different different purpose and type. Switch between form would be quick and painless (no pun intended).
Yeah, but i think the human endoskeleton is a pretty shit platform to build on. The only reason they use it is to infiltrate.
They don't go turning the F-35 into a motorcycle...
Quote from: Goat_Herder on April 29, 2009, 03:13:18 PM
I would totally piss my pants if a flying terminator comes at me with guns for arms. I wouldn't even bother fighting back.
[laugh] me neither, man
You can see in the picture the "moto-terminator"(i agree...lame name) is based on an endo skeleton of the original terminator. I can clearly see vertebrate, thigh/shin structure, and we all know the arms are the business end of this moto. I hope its good......T2 is one of my favorite movies all time.
Enough nerding out [coffee]
Quote from: Goat_Herder on April 29, 2009, 02:56:05 PM
I hope they call it the "Hypermotard Human Hunter and Destroyer". That would be awesome. and by awesome, I meant TOTALLY SWEET!
Motardinators ;D
~JD
"Huntermoto" 8)
Wow.
The comments on that site after the article make me want to never view anything on the internet again. [roll]
[laugh]
Here some concept art about the bike design that explains a bit more of why the bikes look as they do. After looking at the first image and comparing it to the second, it's far easier to see the organic nature of the design:
Initial Design:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/termbike3small-1.jpg)
Final Design:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/Terminator_Salvation_Motorcycle.jpg)
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 01, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Here some concept art about the bike design that explains a bit more of why the bikes look as they do. After looking at the first image and comparing it to the second, it's far easier to see the organic nature of the design:
Initial Design:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/termbike3small-1.jpg)
Final Design:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/Terminator_Salvation_Motorcycle.jpg)
I can tell the initial design is pointing to the left. But which direction is the final design point toward? ???
on my list
Final design is pointing to the right
If we could mod them, we could call them Termignonators?
I wish they came in the non "S" model....you know something more suited for a beginner. I only need the four .30 cal. machine guns. The additional mini guns are just overkill for me and I doubt I would ever use that much power on the street. 8)
Is this an OCC mod?
*ducks*
Quote from: MsTek on May 02, 2009, 06:50:06 AM
Is this an OCC mod?
*ducks*
I didn't see any spiderweb latticework on the tardinator...
did I miss it?
Quote from: BastrdHK on May 01, 2009, 03:17:44 PM
I wish they came in the non "S" model....you know something more suited for a beginner. I only need the four .30 cal. machine guns. The additional mini guns are just overkill for me and I doubt I would ever use that much power on the street. 8)
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 01, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Final Design:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/Terminator_Salvation_Motorcycle.jpg)
I am holding out for the "R" model in the next Terminator installment. The current model is way too heavy, with all the steel parts. Plus the 2 chain guns probably weigh 300lb. Hopefully, the "R" rendition will more carbon fiber to reduce the weight.
Saw an extended trailer and interview with the director last night..McG stated in the interview that the inspiration was the Monster...no mention of the Hypermotard. Weird that it contradicts the official Ducati statement.
Quote from: CDawg on May 12, 2009, 05:35:09 AM
Saw an extended trailer and interview with the director last night..McG stated in the interview that the inspiration was the Monster...no mention of the Hypermotard. Weird that it contradicts the official Ducati statement.
The same here. I was at the movie theater and I saw, probably, the same extended interview and the director mentioned the Ducati Monster... ???
Quote from: Goat_Herder on April 29, 2009, 03:13:18 PM
A beeter question would be - what is the advatage for having robot bikes at all? Just take out the legs of a terminator and put some wheels on them. Better yet, why don't they just put a jet pack on a terminator? On top of that, take out the arms and put machine guns on them.
I would totally piss my pants if a flying terminator comes at me with guns for arms. I wouldn't even bother fighting back.
Flying terminators are a little vulnerable to anti-air attacks because they can't take cover.
Give me a T1000 wearing roller skates any day: manouverable and deadly! [thumbsup]
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on May 13, 2009, 04:43:31 PM
Flying terminators are a little vulnerable to anti-air attacks because they can't take cover.
Give me a T1000 wearing roller skates any day: manouverable and deadly! [thumbsup]
he wouldn't need roller skates, he'd just need to "grow" them.
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 01, 2009, 01:14:16 PM
Here some concept art about the bike design that explains a bit more of why the bikes look as they do. After looking at the first image and comparing it to the second, it's far easier to see the organic nature of the design:
Initial Design:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/termbike3small-1.jpg)
Final Design:
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/Terminator_Salvation_Motorcycle.jpg)
Glad to see they removed the stickers and reflectors.
I think they should have used Monsters and called them...uhm...Monsters.