I'm guessing this guy wished he had more than converse, jeans, a leather vest and dirt gloves on.
(http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3505198982/#in/set-72157617652196783/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3505198982/#in/set-72157617652196783/)
Nah man, he's got his "colors" on, he's all good [laugh]
Maybe he was looking for a cheap way to remove his tattoo.
stupid hurts.
Ducati Monster Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjZ7TJaDGL4#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
^^^ WTF was that guy tryin' to do?? ???
Ouch. That's gonna hurt. I gotta believe that it can't be so hot out yet that wearing gear would be more uncomfortable than skin grafts (as if that is ever the case).
BTW, isn't that Mullholland Drive in LA? Drove along it once years ago . . .
Quote from: pompetta on May 11, 2009, 05:59:03 PM
^^^ WTF was that guy tryin' to do?? ???
"Drift"??? [laugh]
Those of you laughing, remember false sense of security that comes with wearing all your gear will get you too.
Hope rider is alright.
look further through the photos, and you will see a kid in a 848, with a football jersey. :-\ [bang]
the dude did a pretty good slide, bet his ass was hurting.... :-[
Quote from: ab on May 11, 2009, 06:50:08 PM
Those of you laughing, remember false sense of security that comes with wearing all your gear will get you too.
Hope rider is alright.
statistically true, but a broken bone is still ebtter then a broken bone and skin grafts. soo..besdies hes wearing icon. (is it me or does anyone ever notice that squids usually buy icon?)
Quote from: Fox on May 11, 2009, 04:40:03 PM
I'm guessing this guy wished he had more than converse, jeans, a leather vest and dirt gloves on.
(http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3505198982/#in/set-72157617652196783/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3505198982/#in/set-72157617652196783/)
There's quite a string of photos in the stream. Dudes arms are going to need some help after this. Though one cannot tell much about the turn.. doesn't look tight or tricky though. Just too much speed eh? Anyone kow that bend?
I rode there a week later and saw so many at the Rockstore in T-shirts, cut-off's and sneakers!! Just don't understand why anyone would take a chance like that ???
EDIT:: Wow! Never mind! I was there the same day!
Quote from: yuu on May 11, 2009, 07:58:20 PM
There's quite a string of photos in the stream. Dudes arms are going to need some help after this. Though one cannot tell much about the turn.. doesn't look tight or tricky though. Just too much speed eh? Anyone kow that bend?
Its off of Mulholland and runs all the way to PCH http://rockstorephotos.com/image/map.jpg (http://rockstorephotos.com/image/map.jpg)
Quote from: He Man on May 11, 2009, 07:51:32 PMsoo..besdies hes wearing icon. (is it me or does anyone ever notice that squids usually buy icon?)
Icon comes with those St. Christopher (patron saint of travelers) medallions (icons). All the protection you need. [roll]
This is an almost daily occurance on that road.
Then the "drifter" crowd comes out at night.
Is this Macro Derm Abrasion?
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3327/3505198982_265b13fbb4.jpg)
Quote from: AfroS4RS on May 11, 2009, 07:39:43 PM
look further through the photos, and you will see a kid in a 848, with a football jersey. :-\ [bang]
the dude did a pretty good slide, bet his ass was hurting.... :-[
Yup, if you read the comments you learn that he was running from the cops
Quote from: El Matador on May 12, 2009, 03:02:29 AM
Yup, if you read the comments you learn that he was running from the cops
Where did you spot that?
All I saw was that he'd be riding like an a-hole on previous occasions an near ran one commentor off the road. But I didn't see running from LEOs listed there...
Quote from: Holden on May 11, 2009, 08:06:36 PM
Icon comes with those St. Christopher (patron saint of travelers) medallions (icons). All the protection you need. [roll]
you'd be surprised by the quality, construction, and fit of their jackets.
there are quite a few people on this board that aren't squids that wear icon stuff.
their helmets are VERY nice as well.
it's a really effective and affordable alternative to dropping $800 on a dainese jacket and an AGV.
Are you sure he's not just bust'n some moves with his new sticky gloves??
(http://media.bigoo.ws/content/top/for_the_boys/for_the_boys_63.gif)
[cheeky]
Quote from: corey on May 12, 2009, 08:34:50 AM
there are quite a few people on this board that aren't squids that wear icon stuff.
their helmets are VERY nice as well.
Statler wears (or wore) an Icon lid. They do have some decent stuff.. but yes they do market to a certain sub set of the moto population
Quote from: trouble on May 11, 2009, 08:14:02 PM
This is an almost daily occurance on that road.
Then the "drifter" crowd comes out at night.
Kinda like Deal's Gap. Many many squid frequent the place. No drifter crowd, though, maybe some wannabe tuners ~
JM
Quote from: corey on May 12, 2009, 08:34:50 AM
you'd be surprised by the quality, construction, and fit of their jackets.
there are quite a few people on this board that aren't squids that wear icon stuff.
their helmets are VERY nice as well.
it's a really effective and affordable alternative to dropping $800 on a dainese jacket and an AGV.
icon actually started up because they wanted to make gear more affordable. and from what their guy told me, they are aiming at that crowd on purpose so they can get them out of the "gear is uncool" mindset.
Quote from: the_Journeyman on May 12, 2009, 08:59:32 AM
Kinda like Deal's Gap. Many many squid frequent the place. No drifter crowd, though, maybe some wannabe tuners ~
JM
i think that if the drifter crowd came to deal's gap they would very quickly be run out of town.
Any protection is better than none. Although, I may have my own preferences in quality you'll never hear a peep out of me for someone's choice in gear as long as they are wearing some.
Quote from: KnightofNi on May 12, 2009, 09:03:04 AM
i think that if the drifter crowd came to deal's gap they would very quickly be run out of town.
i think they'd get spooked when the first banjo started playing
(kidding. i'm from tennessee - they'd be too busy having to defend themselves from the roving harley gangs.)
Quote from: ryanracer on May 12, 2009, 02:37:36 AM
Is this Macro Derm Abrasion?
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3327/3505198982_265b13fbb4.jpg)
Ouch. Yeah I think it is. You can see where he has no skin on the forearm. Thats gonna hurt.
Quote from: yuu on May 12, 2009, 04:36:53 AM
Where did you spot that?
All I saw was that he'd be riding like an a-hole on previous occasions an near ran one commentor off the road. But I didn't see running from LEOs listed there...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3504390311/#in/photostream/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3504390311/#in/photostream/)
Quote
This is the fellow who tied to out run Motorola. He was a tag along with the Ruthless Riders, but is not a member of the club.
Quote from: ryanracer on May 12, 2009, 02:37:36 AM
Is this Macro Derm Abrasion?
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3505198310)
I can smell the barbecue cooking from here
Quote from: KnightofNi on May 12, 2009, 09:03:04 AM
i think that if the drifter crowd came to deal's gap they would very quickly be run out of town.
Not only that, there's not a lot of room to fix an overzealous slide either ~
JM
Quote from: ab on May 11, 2009, 06:50:08 PM
Those of you laughing, remember false sense of security that comes with wearing all your gear will get you too.
Hope rider is alright.
I have no idea what you're talking about. People who gear up generally survive vs those who don't. It's not coincidental that they tend to be more conscientious and ride within their limits. Buying a leather suit isn't protection, but wanting to be safe will put you at an advantage over someone who wants to drift on the road.
I hope the rider is banged up enough to realize he's mortal and shouldn't do stupid shit like this. It will either make him a better and smarter rider or will make him a cronic danger to himself and others on the road until he's squished.
Ah - I didn't go that far into the stream.
Poked around some more and found a nice duc classic
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3608/3504391969_ce50b81ff8.jpg)
Theres quite a few duc pics. The (http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/porschaholic/smileys/squid.gif) on the 848 makes me sad though. What a waste of an 848.(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/porschaholic/smileys/sad-smiley-046.gif)
Quote from: redxblack on May 12, 2009, 09:31:55 AMshouldn't do stupid shit like this
What, crash?
I agree with the sentiment but just because someone doesn't wear gear doesn't automatically make them a bad rider.
trying to drift on the street is dumb, not crashing.
Quote from: EvilSteve on May 12, 2009, 11:09:26 AM
What, crash?
I agree with the sentiment but just because someone doesn't wear gear doesn't automatically make them a bad rider.
Not necessarily a bad or unskilled one, just a stupid rider. My opinion, of course, and people have a right to gear up or not - and face the consequences.
I would agree being a professional drifter myself, do not drift on the street!! We try to tell people that all the time. There are so many drifting track days now, you could drive every weekend with no fear of crashing or getting a wreckless driving ticket or killing someone.
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6215/1comp.jpg)
Quote from: swampduc on May 12, 2009, 12:11:30 PMNot necessarily a bad or unskilled one, just a stupid rider. My opinion, of course, and people have a right to gear up or not - and face the consequences.
I don't disagree that *I think* it's a poor choice not to wear gear. The fact is, plenty of smart people make that choice and don't wear ATGATT. I've ridden without all the gear but I don't delude myself into thinking that I won't get more seriously hurt if I get into an accident. That's where the problem lies IMO. If you make the choice not to wear ATGATT, fine, that's your choice but understand the consequences before you do.
I think there are a number of people out there on bikes who ride without even a reasonable understanding of the risks they're assuming when throwing a leg over. Ever heard someone say "I started seeing all the fences & poles on the side of the road & got scared & quit riding"? Those people freak me out because they rode for however long and didn't understand the dangers of what they were doing the whole time. I see all that stuff, all the time, that's why I choose to wear ATG99%OTT (;)).
IMO... it's typically the squids who plop down 800$ or more on an race replica arai or shoei instead of an affordable helmet like icon. Usually they just strap it to their helmet loop so the girls can see it while they sit around in a parking lot comparing the 280 tire kit and extended swingarm on their polished out, chromed up, "custom" painted, nitrous injected, twin turbo installed, useless piece of crap that they payed a ridiculous amount of money to "pimp". Just my .02 cents though....
Quote from: El Matador on May 12, 2009, 03:02:29 AM
Yup, if you read the comments you learn that he was running from the cops
They got him actually... We came up on him getting put in handcuffs. He downed the 848, just saw it laying in the middle of the street.
Quote from: nateqwik on May 12, 2009, 04:25:43 PM
IMO... it's typically the squids who plop down 800$ or more on an race replica arai or shoei instead of an affordable helmet like icon. Usually they just strap it to their helmet loop so the girls can see it while they sit around in a parking lot comparing the 280 tire kit and extended swingarm on their polished out, chromed up, "custom" painted, nitrous injected, twin turbo installed, useless piece of crap that they payed a ridiculous amount of money to "pimp". Just my .02 cents though....
I see you have been to Virginia Beach ;)
Quote from: XJDAVE on May 12, 2009, 05:12:46 PM
I see you have been to Virginia Beach ;)
Nah, you can find that sort of thing in any wal-mart parking lot on any given night during the warmer months of the year. I'm pretty certain the squid set has a long term lease on some parking spaces in my area.
Quote from: HeyThatsMyBike on May 12, 2009, 05:03:14 PM
They got him actually... We came up on him getting put in handcuffs. He downed the 848, just saw it laying in the middle of the street.
Wonder how well a jersey prevents road rash? Poor poor 848. So sad. :'(
Quote from: nateqwik on May 12, 2009, 04:25:43 PM
IMO... it's typically the squids who plop down 800$ or more on an race replica arai or shoei instead of an affordable helmet like icon. Usually they just strap it to their helmet loop so the girls can see it while they sit around in a parking lot comparing the 280 tire kit and extended swingarm on their polished out, chromed up, "custom" painted, nitrous injected, twin turbo installed, useless piece of crap that they payed a ridiculous amount of money to "pimp". Just my .02 cents though....
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Had the lovely experience of watching a dude pull up behind me in my cage riding some Jap bike. He was geared up for riding.... basketball jersey, warmups, and IZ_ moccasin house shoes. The kicker..... he pulled out his cell phone and answered it while at the light. [bang]
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Quote from: corndog67 on May 12, 2009, 08:40:17 PM
That is a pretty racist comment. Some Jap bike. I don't recall anyone saying "Some Dago bike". You make the comment like you think certain other motorcycles are superior.
I am Japanese, and that is an offensive comment.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: corndog67 on May 12, 2009, 08:40:17 PM
That is a pretty racist comment. Some Jap bike. I don't recall anyone saying "Some Dago bike". You make the comment like you think certain other motorcycles are superior.
I am Japanese, and that is an offensive comment.
Ok... I'm not sure if you're serious or joking. Nothing racist about it, sorry if you were offended. It was Japanese, couldn't exactly tell which one.. Kawasaki, Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha... a few years old and he had all the regular decals removed. In their place silly looking decals with "Seven 1/2" written everywhere. Not sure if that was his shoe size or his IQ, but they could both be confused. Certain motorcycles are superior, this example was definitely not one of those.
Crash Ducati Monster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q68KXZdY-iY#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Quote from: kopfjager on May 12, 2009, 10:03:53 PM
Crash Ducati Monster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q68KXZdY-iY#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
I see your dumbass and raise you a retard
Loser Does A Burnout Right Into A Parked Car (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOL5eoKrfWE&feature=related#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
They ride Ducati's as well.
ducati crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPFdRjqE35o#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Quote from: kopfjager on May 12, 2009, 10:03:53 PM
Crash Ducati Monster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q68KXZdY-iY#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Wow....what was he trying to do.....burnout? That is not a monster btw [coffee]
Quote from: BastrdHK on May 13, 2009, 12:32:17 AM
Wow....what was he trying to do.....burnout? That is not a monster btw [coffee]
Yeah - that's an SV (I think) also - like the 2nd fool.
And that 749/999... not really a crash... it's a poor choice for a slow ride competition.
Quote from: slim_grizzy on May 12, 2009, 09:57:49 PM
Ok... I'm not sure if you're serious or joking. Nothing racist about it, sorry if you were offended. It was Japanese, couldn't exactly tell which one.. Kawasaki, Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha... a few years old and he had all the regular decals removed. In their place silly looking decals with "Seven 1/2" written everywhere. Not sure if that was his shoe size or his IQ, but they could both be confused. Certain motorcycles are superior, this example was definitely not one of those.
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Quote from: corndog67 on May 12, 2009, 07:06:06 PM
I wear what the real riders and racers wear, you know, the guys that ride for a living. I wear Arai, Shoei and on occasion, Simpson. If you've got a $10 head, wear a $10 helmet (from an old Bell Helmets ad).
That's a pretty ignorant comment. There was an article I'm sure someone can post up the link to showing several helmets tested. One of the best tested was a $120 helmet. I think you have a superiority complex...
Quote from: NAKID on May 13, 2009, 06:56:26 AM
That's a pretty ignorant comment. There was an article I'm sure someone can post up the link to showing several helmets tested. One of the best tested was a $120 helmet. I think you have a superiority complex...
Helmet review I read found the same thing - some of the safest helmets were the least expensive. The extra money you are paying for is a questionably more advanced cooling system, lighterweight, and fancy schmancy graphics.
And, really, there is nothing racist in calling motorcycles made in Japan "jap bikes", because, they are afterall japanese made motorcycles. There's some three-letter acronym for it as well, I can't remember the exact combo, but something like GJB, for Generic Japanese Bike. (Except I thought it was a U instead of a G).
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I'm sure they (professionals) have a whole lot of say in which helmet they pick, and its not about who pays to have their label going around the track.
Seeing as my 10 dollar head has been saved by a 120 dollar HJC I will continue to put my faith in them. :P
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If it is just as effective at 1/4 the cost, why not? The more expensive helmets do not protect better.
They are quieter, look nicer, and have a desirable brand image.
analogy fail.
you are trying to say that "a more expensive helmet provides better protection"
Which is untrue, several independent magazine tests have shown this. The extra cost doesn't equate to extra protection, but you are paying for a lighterweight helmet, better venting, better aerodynamics, etc. Has nothing to do with the core function of the helmet: protecting your melon.
big bore kit on a bike is adding power to the bike. there's no analogy in adding protection to a helmet by paying more. (cover it in bubblewrap and I suppose its similar).
Similarly, you can't simply say "buy expensive tires and not use all of their stickiness" is like buying a more expensive helmet, again, its not a better protecting helmet - sure its lighter, looks better, and its better at cooling your noodle, but its not better at keeping your brain intact.
Quote from: corndog67 on May 13, 2009, 07:07:49 AM
LIke I said, $10 head, $10 helmet. What do you see Indy car drivers wearing?
Unless you have no clue, you HAVE to know that they aren't paying for their own gear. You think they wear a Shoei because they want to? (Maybe they do, maybe they don't) But if they are sponsored by Shoei, you won't find them wearing a Arai helmet.
Where do you think those big companies get the money to sponsor race teams? From selling you an expensive helmet.
BTW, the $80 helmet that I was wearing when I got hit by a semi held up great. I never even got a headache despite the SERIOUS injury to my left leg.
Here's the article if you care to read it:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearbox/motorcycle_helmet_review/index.html)
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Quote from: kopfjager on May 12, 2009, 10:08:37 PM
They ride Ducati's as well.
Is there somewhere in this thread where someone says they don't? ???
Quote from: corndog67 on May 13, 2009, 08:03:29 AM
Alright, alright, you guys win. I'm going to throw away my Arai's and Shoei's and use an old football helmet that is out in the garage. Well, maybe not.
Have a good day.
Did you bother to read the article? Or are you so stuck on the thought that an expensive helmet is the best helmet that you just can't accept independent tests that say otherwise?
Quote from: corndog67 on May 13, 2009, 08:03:29 AM
Alright, alright, you guys win. I'm going to throw away my Arai's and Shoei's and use an old football helmet that is out in the garage. Well, maybe not.
Have a good day.
[roll]
Quote from: corndog67 on May 13, 2009, 08:03:29 AM
Alright, alright, you guys win. I'm going to throw away my Arai's and Shoei's and use an old football helmet that is out in the garage. Well, maybe not.
Have a good day.
I think you're getting way too offended at this whole deal. No one is telling you not to buy an expensive lid. They're just saying that SOME of the inexpensive ones work as well or better according to lab test results. Not really an arguable thing at all.
I have one of those $600 race replicas, but not because I think I'm safer in it than in a $150 Bell. I like the graphic, weight, airflow and aerodynamics of it and since I wear it almost every day I judged those things to be important enough to me to justify the extra $$$. And I trust it to help out my melon in a fall. Just not any more than other good helmets would.
So take a breath, and enjoy your Shoei/Arai/Soumy - just don't pretend you're safer in it than other brands.
Quote from: DCXCV on May 13, 2009, 08:15:12 AM
I think you're getting way too offended at this whole deal. No one is telling you not to buy an expensive lid. They're just saying that SOME of the inexpensive ones work as well or better according to lab test results. Not really an arguable thing at all.
So take a breath, and enjoy your Shoei/Arai/Soumy - just don't pretend you're safer in it than other brands.
+1
Quote from: DCXCV on May 13, 2009, 08:15:12 AM
I think you're getting way too offended at this whole deal. No one is telling you not to buy an expensive lid. They're just saying that SOME of the inexpensive ones work as well or better according to lab test results. Not really an arguable thing at all.
I have one of those $600 race replicas, but not because I think I'm safer in it than in a $150 Bell. I like the graphic, weight, airflow and aerodynamics of it and since I wear it almost every day I judged those things to be important enough to me to justify the extra $$$. And I trust it to help out my melon in a fall. Just not any more than other good helmets would.
So take a breath, and enjoy your Shoei/Arai/Soumy - just don't pretend you're safer in it than other brands.
Never mind, it doesn't really matter anyway.
QuoteYou know what really offends me? When some numbnuts says I have a superiority complex
QuoteI was a machinist in a Superbike shop, I raced dirttrack, TT's, Enduro, and Hare Scrambles for years, and I really do have a clue.
[laugh]
I'm just saying. [laugh]
Where was the name calling again? When you called NAKID 'numbnuts' just now?
You were making an argument that people had evidence against but you refused to acknowledge.
You took offense when someone called a bike a "Jap" bike when the bike was JAPANESE.
You're the one saying that the argument is that squids buy expensive helmets. WRONG. The argument is that an inexpensive helmet can be just as good as an expensive one.
Wow its getting rough in here. (avoids eye contact, hurries off to next thread)
you know what offends me?
somebody ranting and crying foul and labeling others as racists when they call a bike made by the Japanese a "Jap[anese] bike."
then, instead of realizing how silly this was, they continue to argue a moot point, they posit that only squids wear inexpensive helmets, despite studies showing that $ and protection are not synonymous when speaking of helmets, and that real riders where expensive helmets.
The superiority complex statement came after the "cheap chinese helmets are for squids" - not true, you don't have to belittle somebody's riding abilities based on a helmet choice that protects every bit as good (possibly better) than your expensive helmet. That was a conscious decision on their part to be protected the same as you, for less money. Money which could then be used for trackdays, or hookers, or beef jerky.
It's a no win situation, I've deleted everything I've written. You guys win.
It's really not worth the aggravation, on either side. Have a nice ride today.
Later.
Quote from: corndog67 on May 13, 2009, 08:44:03 AM
No, first the comment JAP is a racial term, not Japanese motorcycle, but JAP. Kind of like Chink. Or Gook. It's racial.
Nope.
Oh look at that! You're going through and deleting your posts! [laugh]
Nice!!!! Well, you were quoted several times so at least there's still a little of what you said.
Please, refrain from calling harleys and victorys "american bikes", despite that being the correct term in identifying the country of origin.
from now on, when things originate from a specific country, and are readily identifiable as such, we shall not label them as such, for to do so would be "racist" (a word which has all but lost its meaning in this thread).
Referring to a I4 japanese motorcycle as a "Jap bike" is about as racist as referring to an Italian bike as an "Italian bike". Write a letter to your congressman if you don't like that people abbreviate "japanese" as "jap" because it has so many syllables, maybe he can use some taxpayer money to back your cause.
This is clearly distinguishable from epithets like "wop, n*, gook, etc" and to classify it as such is to undermine and waterdown the politically-correct movement. And maybe that's your underlying goal, but a Ducati enthusiasts website is not the best public forum to use.
Ok, not trying to gang up on anyone, but is "Brit" a racial term? What about "Aussie"? No? Then I don't think one should assume "Jap" is meant in a racist way. Unless one subscribes to the life approach that says, "Spend all your time looking for something to be offended by, and you'll probably find something."
Jap is the same as gook, chink, nigger, spick. It is a racial slur. You guys going to gang up on this, too?
Brit or Aussie is not derogatory. I got banned for a couple days for talking about illegal aliens. Now people are defending a racial slur. Ask a Japanese person how they feel about the term.
But that is neither here nor there. It IS offensive to a certain group. And I'm about the most non Politically Correct person you'll ever meet.
Just so you know, most Japanese people consider it offensive.
WTF do you mean, "gang up?" There just happen to be a lot of people who disagree with you on that particular point. Should we select one person to reply? Will you feel better then?
Quote from: corndog67 on May 13, 2009, 08:44:03 AM
It's a no win situation, I've deleted everything I've written. You guys win.
It's really not worth the aggravation, on either side. Have a nice ride today.
Later.
If that's what you think, just leave it. It doesn't make you a bigger or smaller person to delete them, it just seems childish. I mean everything I type and leave it there, like it or not. If those are your beliefs, stick by them. Some of us just don't agree with them. That doesn't mean we "don't like" you or whatever. So what if people disagree with you. A. It's the internet B. Who cares what other people think right?
Quote from: corndog67 on May 13, 2009, 08:55:05 AM
Jap is the same as gook, chink, nigger, spick. It is a racial slur. You guys going to gang up on this, too?
Don't have to, you are wrong. You'd be better off arguing that "labeling somebody of asian descent as jap" is ignorant. Labeling a simple object by its country of origin cannot possibly be racist. Perhaps you are unaware of the definition of racism. Allow the Princeton dictionary to enlighten you.
Racism defined:
-the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races
-discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
Both definitions hinge on a
prejudicial or
discriminatory act towards a
human being
Hey, you know JAP refers to a Jewish American Pricess too right? How do you know he wasn't talking about a girl riding the bike that her daddy bought for her? ;D
Quote from: ato memphis on May 13, 2009, 08:43:37 AM
<snip>
or hookers, or beef jerky.
Something about that combination is slightly nauseating
i have a high metabolism.
Not racist, RACIAL SLUR. A term describing a person of a certain descent.
And what's wrong with hookers and jerky?
Well, it's been fun guys. Sorry if I got a bit carried away, but now I need to go and buy some material. I wonder if I can carry an 8' bar of aluminum on the Duc? make the beast with two backs the truck.
Quote from: corndog67 on May 13, 2009, 09:03:49 AM
Not racist, RACIAL SLUR. A term describing a person of a certain descent.
Guess i don't really have much to add, you just pointed out you were wrong yourself. A term describing a person.
Compare with: A term describing a motorcycle by its country of origin
Let's bring this one back around away from personal shit, shall we?
Guys, a little late in the game, I was too busy riding. I gotta say though that I'm with Corndog on this. JAP used to be a very derogatory term for Japanese, we have just recently been conditioned to recognize it as an abbreviation. When it comes to feeling offended by a word, that's exactly what it is - feelings. If you've never felt it, you wouldn't recognize it, therefore not understand it. Technicalities in this instance don't matter. I had to fight almost daily growing up being called a chink, jap, nipper etc. none of which I am. It doesn't change the fact that I felt offended by these words. The context doesn't matter if the word is all that is heard.
Oh ya, about the original post. Ouch!
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cough.
I say again.
cough.
let's move on.
hello? is this thing on?
the photo thread on that link is awesome.
BODY POSITION FAIL:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3526923965/# (https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3526923965/#)
Quote from: corey on May 13, 2009, 12:06:37 PM
the photo thread on that link is awesome.
BODY POSITION FAIL:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3526923965/# (https://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/3526923965/#)
Actually, while riding a motard, that
is the body position you want.
I mean, just look at Xaus
(http://www.visordown.com/news/images/747/ruben-xaus.jpg)
or Hayden
(http://www.motorevue.com/article/article/nicky-hayden-roulait-aux-x-games-sur-une-honda-crf450r-de-l-equipe-red-bull-troy-lee-designs-34124-1-zoom.jpg)
I know he's struggling now, but Nicky Hayden is one damn fine rider. Do you remember the Hayden Brothers a few years ago at the Springfield Grand National TT when they lapped up to about 5th place, against all the GNC regulars? Outstanding. I think he will get used to the Duc and come back to the front of MotoGP. We'll see.
Man, this thread has come pretty full circle. First crappy riders. Then helmets. And then, I brought up racial slurs. And now, Nicky Hayden.
How to cut a live squid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pqSz8HCSVU#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Jeez... what happened to this thread?!? I was planning on trying to convince corndog that his "my expensive helmet is better than a cheap squid helmet" argument is a classic example of a squid mindset and lo and behold.... this thread went bonkers!!! Now I contend... The "I wear what the pros wear" argument is ridiculous because,
1. Pros don't REALLY CARE about the brand of helmet they wear in a race so long as it protects their head and...
2. Pros do REALLY CARE about the brand of helmet they wear in a race because they are PAYED to wear it.
ALSO, by using this argument one must assume that when you get in your car to go to the store you put on a nomex fire suit and 5 point harness because the race car drivers wear it... (the guys who get PAYED to drive.) Seems a ridiculous argument to me. Personally I don't care WHAT brand helmet someone wears so long as it keeps their skull intact if they crash. Besides, did the squid in the photos suffer from a head injury? No. He hopefully learned a hard lesson and will wear proper gear from now on. However, some people never learn.
Quote from: silentbob on May 13, 2009, 02:27:16 PM
How to cut a live squid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pqSz8HCSVU#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Thats one way to cut a live squid.
But I still prefer this way.
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3327/3505198982_265b13fbb4.jpg)
Quote from: nateqwik on May 13, 2009, 02:37:21 PM
Jeez... what happened to this thread?!? I was planning on trying to convince corndog that his "my expensive helmet is better than a cheap squid helmet" argument is a classic example of a squid mindset and lo and behold.... this thread went bonkers!!! Now I contend... The "I wear what the pros wear" argument is ridiculous because,
1. Pros don't REALLY CARE about the brand of helmet they wear in a race so long as it protects their head and...
2. Pros do REALLY CARE about the brand of helmet they wear in a race because they are PAYED to wear it.
ALSO, by using this argument one must assume that when you get in your car to go to the store you put on a nomex fire suit and 5 point harness because the race car drivers wear it... (the guys who get PAYED to drive.) Seems a ridiculous argument to me. Personally I don't care WHAT brand helmet someone wears so long as it keeps their skull intact if they crash. Besides, did the squid in the photos suffer from a head injury? No. He hopefully learned a hard lesson and will wear proper gear from now on. However, some people never learn.
Quote from: Statler on May 13, 2009, 11:24:55 AM
<admin hat>
cough.
I say again.
cough.
let's move on.
hello? is this thing on?
I guess it's not on Chris.
And it's PAID dammit.
personally, depending on the season, sometimes its "Plaid".
Quote from: nateqwik on May 13, 2009, 02:37:21 PMALSO, by using this argument one must assume that when you get in your car to go to the store you put on a nomex fire suit and 5 point harness because the race car drivers wear it... (the guys who get PAYED to drive.) Seems a ridiculous argument to me.
Only if the argument is "I wear what the pros
at anything wear." Then you would have to dress like a prostitute sometimes.
But who gets paid to go to the store to buy food, anyway? ...so dress like kitchen staff.
Regardless, it
is safer to wear the nomex suit and use the harness, even if you are just going to the store...
I bought a pair of Danner Firemans boots that I think are Nomex lined, at an estate sale, so I guess I'm sort of set up. A dead guys boots. But they were almost brand new.
Statler is too kind...