So worth reading.
http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090915expdelfool.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090915expdelfool.htm)
Quote from: gm2 on September 15, 2009, 01:14:45 PM
So worth reading.
http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090915expdelfool.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090915expdelfool.htm)
[thumbsup]
He'll never get picked for a question at a news conference. [thumbsup]
Good article. Too bad it won't do anything other than what you just said. :P Worse still they probably won't even let him in the same room as the news conference. Oh well... thank goodness for MotoGP and WSBK. [thumbsup]
the Soup Army will have other agents slide into those doorways on his behalf!
Am I the only one that wants someone to torch the entire f'n house? Just burn down the entire series, and watch while DMG tries to put out the fire. Sure, I'd miss watching the occasion AMA race, and it'd be an unfortunate loss for American motorcycling and particularly for the up-n-coming generation.
But it'd be pretty great to be able to say to DMG, "This is what you wanted. Have at it." Something better will rise from the ashes.
Quote from: Spidey on September 15, 2009, 05:42:56 PM
Am I the only one that wants someone to torch the entire f'n house? Just burn down the entire series, and watch while DMG tries to put out the fire. Sure, I'd miss watching the occasion AMA race, and it'd be an unfortunate loss for American motorcycling and particularly for the up-n-coming generation.
There is that, and then "fans" like me. I watched 1 AMA race last year. 0 this year. I was not really a fan when it was "good", and they went the downhill from there.
AMA would have to get back to 2 years ago, and then improve another level or 2 before I would consider spending an hour in front of the TV to watch it.
mitt
Quote from: Spidey on September 15, 2009, 05:42:56 PM
Am I the only one that wants someone to torch the entire f'n house?
~snip~
IMO, DMG already did it, it's just not finished burning yet.
We all thought the 'breakaway' was a close thing this year, I expect some *serious* discussions starting soon.
I forsee DMG causing the utter collapse of the AMA racing series for road tracks ( because AMA motocross is it's own beast of burden that is strong and undying, or so it seems) and a larger national sanctioning body like WERA for example growing and filling AMA Road Racing's boots.
Quote from: zooom on September 16, 2009, 03:22:47 AM
... and a larger national sanctioning body like WERA for example growing and filling AMA Road Racing's boots.
wera really has no desire to become ama pro racing. they've been down that road before.
I take it all back re DMG. If they let me race a Ninja 250 in AMA, I'm their biggest supporter:
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38131 (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38131)
Quote from: Spidey on September 16, 2009, 02:17:31 PM
I take it all back re DMG. If they let me race a Ninja 250 in AMA on an oval, I'm their biggest supporter:
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38131 (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38131)
fixed it for ya
Quote from: Spidey on September 16, 2009, 02:17:31 PM
I take it all back re DMG. If they let me race a Ninja 250 in AMA, I'm their biggest supporter:
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38131 (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38131)
All part of the quest to have a 'control' bike.
Don't fall for the propaganda. ;)
Quote from: ducpainter on September 16, 2009, 02:20:13 PM
All part of the quest to have a 'control' bike (http://www.motorcycle.com/news/2010-buell-1125rr-introduced-88563.html).
Fixed it for ya...
This just in, new DMG/AMA classes for 2010:
BoT-1 = Ninja 2-fiddy
BoT-2 = 450 Single
BoT-3 = Stock Buell
BoT-4 = Buell RR
All Spec classes.
Remember, you heard it here first.
Quote from: Speeddog on September 16, 2009, 03:20:22 PM
This just in, new DMG/AMA classes for 2010:
BoT-1 = Ninja 2-fiddy
BoT-2 = 450 Single
BoT-3 = Stock Buell
BoT-4 = Buell RR
All Spec classes.
Remember, you heard it here first.
BoT [laugh] That cracks me up!!
But, if they were really going to follow the CoT model with the BoT, wouldn't they resort to a 1988 Yamaha deltabox chassis with a 1960's Harley motor?
Oh, wait sorry I see you did list Buell RR. My bad. ;D
obviously, the buell 1125s will be legal in both the 250 and 450 classes.
Quote from: gm2 on September 16, 2009, 03:33:47 PM
obviously, the buell 1125s will be legal in both the 250 and 450 classes.
wtfn?
I gotta tell ya, a Ninja 250 is a blast to race. But as spectator the only thing interesting about 'em is being able to chase down the riders mid-race (and on foot) while they're truckin' down the main straight and get an autograph.
Quote from: Spidey on September 16, 2009, 04:03:24 PM
I gotta tell ya, a Ninja 250 is a blast to race. But as spectator the only thing interesting about 'em is being able to chase down the riders mid-race (and on foot) while they're truckin' down the main straight and get an autograph.
[laugh] [laugh] [cheeky] [cheeky] [clap] [clap]
Quote from: Spidey on September 16, 2009, 04:03:24 PM
I gotta tell ya, a Ninja 250 is a blast to race. But as spectator the only thing interesting about 'em is being able to chase down the riders mid-race (and on foot) while they're truckin' down the main straight and get an autograph.
but the challenge is handing them the sharpie to sign like the baton hand off in a relay race without dropping it....
Quote from: zooom on September 17, 2009, 05:39:12 AM
but the challenge is handing them the sharpie to sign like the baton hand off in a relay race without dropping it....
The weight of the sharpie drops another 10mph off their pace, so it isn't an issue.
mitt
http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38134 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38134)
...since i'm sure that DMG will not be sending this press release to Soup ;)
Wow, his title takes up a whole line, he must be impotent:
QuoteAMA Pro National Guard American Superbike presented by Parts Unlimited Champion Mat Mladin
Quote from: Cider on September 17, 2009, 02:17:49 PM
Wow, his title takes up a whole line, he must be impotent:
A legend....
Quote from: ducpainter on September 17, 2009, 03:04:36 PM
A legend....
AHHH...but in the world? or in his mind?...or perhaps his mind is his own world given the size of his ego....not saying whether it is deserved or not...just sayin...
Quote from: Cider on September 17, 2009, 02:17:49 PM
Wow, his title takes up a whole line, he must be impotent:
APNGASpbPU Champion Mat Mladin sounds much better.
Quote from: zooom on September 18, 2009, 03:21:41 AMAHHH...but in the world? or in his mind?...or perhaps his mind is his own world given the size of his ego....not saying whether it is deserved or not...just sayin...
You know who else has a massive ego? Agostini. Mladin is nowhere near Agostini but don't sit here & say it's not deserved just because you don't like the guy. You presume your opinion of someone's personality has a bearing on their ability or their achievements?
Quote from: EvilSteve on September 18, 2009, 08:10:55 AM
You know who else has a massive ego? Agostini.
that's one of the big reasons i want to see rossi break his all-time win record. ;D
Agostini has been taking shots at Rossi makes me want to see Rossi beat Agostini's record too but not to dismiss Agostini's ability or incredible record.
Quote from: EvilSteve on September 18, 2009, 08:10:55 AM
You know who else has a massive ego? Agostini. Mladin is nowhere near Agostini but don't sit here & say it's not deserved just because you don't like the guy. You presume your opinion of someone's personality has a bearing on their ability or their achievements?
sometimes Ego and Personality and Ability collide and sometimes they are cohesive partners...they are parts that add to a whole picture...you look at someone who has an ego, generally they have some talent that bears the fruit for an ego, but it is tempered by personality...you look at someone like Bayliss or Corser or Spies or Toseland...all multiple year champions and all have great talent and all have a level of ego that is well deserved...but where you see the difference between them and Mladin is the personality that they temper it with...much like Pedrosa to a small degree who also seems to not have much of a personality, instead of an abrasive one....the personality plus talent turns ego into pure arrogance and that I think is what turns people off...at least for me...
this is all in the case of where it is deserved of being respected and admired for their talent and overlooking ego....some like say Johnny Rock Page for example who have an ego that is undeserved to a degree...that degree being that he doesn't have the pedigree or resume even though he is still faster on a track than anyone on this board, I'd bet...
anyways...it is all bench racing BS for us here....
Mladin seems to have an aloof confidence that turns some people off. Me included. But he's a damn good rider and I admire the fact that he is absolutely adamant about rider safety. That he'd be willing to sit out a race at a track rather than compromise that commitment is more than most people would do.
check out mladin on twitter.. or the last OTT interview. his 'ego' was race face.
"the mat mladin that came to the track and wanted to kill everyone in sight, he's not here anymore."
granted he's a supremely no-BS (...er, Austrailian?) kind of guy but the not-competitive side of him seems to be someone you'd want to have a beer with.
^^ what he said. ;)
Quote from: zooom on September 18, 2009, 03:21:41 AM
AHHH...but in the world? or in his mind?...or perhaps his mind is his own world given the size of his ego....not saying whether it is deserved or not...just sayin...
I'm not arguing with that thought.
Agostini is a quirky case. Much of his success is, to the best of my knowledge, attributable to the bike he rode rather than the race victories he clawed out through superior riding.
more fodder from post Honda pullout wake...
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090922uysx.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090922uysx.htm)
alot to consider when it all boils down to the DMG show of AMA racing.
this time op-ed from RRW, but why bother with a new thread....
yowza!: http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38237 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38237)
Quote from: gm2 on September 28, 2009, 03:19:45 PM
this time op-ed from RRW, but why bother with a new thread....
yowza!: http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38237 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38237)
Wow..........ouch.
can it possibly get worse?
It is like As The World Turns
mitt
The video of Ludington going off on Page is pretty instructive too.
At 0:12: "You don't hold your line, you get the make the beast with two backs out of the way!"
Al Ludington Confrontation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C42W0dyBC8#ws-normal)
Quote"Section 7: Race Rules And Procedures 7.14 Flags / Lights vii. Blue Flag: Indicates to a rider that they are about to be overtaken. Riders are advised to keep their line and allow the faster rider to pass. Riders disregarding this flag may be blackflagged at the discretion of AMA Pro Racing."
more op-ed, this time from john ulrich. you know that's worth reading...
http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38257 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=38257)
includes a compilation of relevant RRW article links, also.
Quote from: gm2 on September 29, 2009, 02:05:12 PM
more op-ed, this time from john ulrich. you know that's worth reading...
Dayuuuum. :o If DMG officials could read, that article might hurt their feelings.
Completely incredulous. I hadn't seen the video of Mladin after Laguna, but I gotta say, I think I like him better now for actually calling it like it was.
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=37235 (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=37235)
Mladin's comments crack me up!
"...could have been very ugly.. i'm not sure what it's gonna take to make these people realize we shouldn't have a pace car in motorcycle racing. we don't have radio communication.. we can't see lights like when you're sitting down having a cup of tea NASCAR racing... " rofl